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Ok i went a bit strong saying 'Briscoe DESTROYS Lamotta', i got a little passionate .. Nobody destroys Lamotta, but i see Valdez and Briscoe beating him, and im sticking up for these guys who are often forgotten but would be regarded as stellar champions if they operated at 160 today .. Can you imagine Pavlik against Valdez or Briscoe ?

 

Marcochico, we are trying to have a serious debate about Middleweights, and you've just **** in my face, what kind of list is that ??

 

Id imagine all types of pain for poor Kelly.

 

I must be the only one to vote for Les Darcy so far.

Huge fan.

 

"Who was the greatest fighter I ever fought?"

Lloyd Marshall..Knocked me down and beat me good!
Charlie Burley
Middleweight Lloyd Marshall of Sacramento last night won a decision from favored (10-7 odds) Minneapolis battler Charley Burley in the 10-round main event at Legion Stadium. Marshall floored Burley for "three" in round one and a no-count in round four. The referee gave Marshall six rounds, Burley one and the rest even.

Lloyd Marshall vs. Jake LaMotta

1944-04-21 : Jake LaMotta 158½lbs lost to Lloyd Marshall 160¼lbs by UD in round 10 of 10
Location: Arena, Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Referee: Jackie Davis

"Lloyd Marshall, the nation's #1 Light heavyweight, boxed his way to an easy 10 round victory over Jake LaMotta tonight. LaMotta, sporting a streak of eight straight victories, was no match for the Sacramento, Calif. Negro and managed to take only one round, the tenth, with a furious finish that had the fans on their feet. LaMotta's left cheekbone began to bleed in the 4th round and Marshall made the cut a target for his left jabs. In the 5th round Marshall staggered LaMotta with several hard left hooks to the jaw and body. He piled up most of his points, however, with his left jab. The Bronx Italian also suffered a split nostril in the 8th. The fastest round of the fight was the tenth. LaMotta, who had remained in a semi-crouch most of the night, opened up and tried to tag Marshall with a KO punch, but failed. Marshall took every round but the 1st and 10th on the UP scorecard. The opening canto was even as both fighters sparred for advantage." -United Press

Weights: Marshall-160¼, LaMotta-158½



Name: Lloyd Marshall
Career Record: click
Nationality: US American
Hometown: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Born: 1914-06-04
Died: 1997-08-04
Age at Death: 83
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 5′ 10″
Managers: Frank Doljack, Johnny Rogers

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Elected into the World Boxing Hall of FameLloyd Marshall
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Name: Lloyd Marshall
Career Record: click
Nationality: US American
Hometown: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Born: 1914-06-04
Died: 1997-08-04
Age at Death: 83
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 5′ 10″
Managers: Frank Doljack, Johnny Rogers

 

Moore had this quote I read in his book, something like:

"People ask me who was the best I ever fought and I tell them Marciano to make them happy, but the real best guys I faced were Burley and Booker"

 

Yeah, I think so.

 

I really like Boilermaker's list.

 

1 Bob Fitzsimmons
2 Harry Greb
3 Carlos Monzon
4 Marvin Hagler
5 Ray Robinson
6 Marcel Cerdan
7 Mickey Walker
8 Holman Williams
9 Tony Zale
10 Dick Tiger

 

1.) Harry Greb
2.) Sugar Ray Robinson
3.) Carlos Monzon
4.) Charlie Burley
5.) Stanley Ketchel
6.) Bernard Hopkins
7.) Dick Tiger
8.) Gene Fullmer
9.) Tiger Flowers
10.) Bob Fitzsimmons

 

Tough list to make, with LaMotta, Holman Williams, Mike Gibbons, and Tony Zale hovering around.