Please Participate--All-Time Welterweight Survey (POLL CLOSED!! )

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I will try and get to the other numbers later tonight, but it may have to wait until tomorrow night.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    BASIC RESULTS

    1. 1049 Sugar Ray Robinson (41)
    2. 524 Sugar Ray Leonard
    3. 322 Henry Armstrong
    4. 301 Jose Napoles
    5. 275 Kid Gavilan
    6. 207 Emile Griffith
    7. 174 Tommy Hearns
    8. 129 Luis Rodriguez
    9. 111 Barbados Joe Walcott
    10. 87 Mickey Walker
    11. 66 Roberto Duran
    12. 53 Carmen Basillo
    13. 47 Charles Burley
    14. 42 Jack Britton
    15. 39 Tommy Ryan (1)
    16. 26 Sam Langford (1)
    17. 25 Pernell Whitaker
    18. 24 Don Curry
    19. 21 Jimmy Mclarnin
    20. 19 [tie] Felix Trinidad
    20. 19 [tie] Barney Ross
    22. 15 Peter Jackson
    23. 12 Ted Kid Lewis
    24. 11 Oscar De La Hoya
    25. 10 [tie] Jack Dempsey
    25. 10 [tie] Pipino Cuevas
    27. 8 Miguel Cotto
    28. 7 Sugar Shane Mosley
    29. 5 [tie] Wilfred Benitez
    29. 5 [tie] Carlos Palomino
    31. 4 Marlon Sterling
    32. 3 Aaron Davis
    33. 2 [tie] Isufu Quartey
    33. 2 [tie] Jose Lopez
    35. 1 Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Here is the distribution of votes.
    TOTAL LISTS MADE - NAME - (1st-2nd-3rd-4-5-6-7-8-9-10)

    43 Sugar Ray Robinson (41 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0)
    42 Sugar Ray Leonard (0 22 8 6 4 0 0 2 0 0)
    35 Henry Armstrong (0 10 6 2 3 7 3 2 1 1)
    41 Jose Napoles (0 1 7 10 4 10 2 1 3 3)
    36 Kid Gavilan (0 2 6 9 4 4 5 1 3 2)
    37 Emile Griffith (0 1 1 3 8 5 8 7 4 0)
    29 Tommy Hearns (0 1 4 1 6 4 3 2 7 1)
    23 Luis Rodriguez (0 0 3 4 0 3 3 7 2 1)
    20 Barbados Joe Walcott (0 3 2 1 1 0 0 3 5 5)
    15 Mickey Walker (0 1 1 1 4 0 2 0 4 2)
    9 Roberto Duran (0 1 0 1 3 1 3 0 0 0)
    15 Carmen Basillo (0 0 0 1 1 2 3 1 3 4)
    13 Charles Burley (0 0 1 0 1 0 2 4 2 3)
    11 Jack Britton (0 0 1 0 0 2 2 3 0 3)
    3 Tommy Ryan (1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0)
    2 Sam Langford (1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
    7 Pernell Whitaker (0 0 0 0 1 0 1 3 2 0)
    7 Don Curry (0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 2 2)
    5 Jimmy Mclarnin (0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1)
    8 Felix Trinidad (0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 3)
    4 Barney Ross (0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1)
    1 Peter Jackson (0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0)
    5 Ted Kid Lewis (0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 4)
    4 Oscar De La Hoya (0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1)
    1 Jack Dempsey (0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0)
    1 Pipino Cuevas (0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0)
    1 Miguel Cotto (0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0)
    3 Sugar Shane Mosley (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1)
    1 Wilfred Benitez (0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0)
    2 Carlos Palomino (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1)
    1 Marlon Sterling (0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0)
    1 Aaron Davis (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0)
    2 Isufu Quartey (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2)
    1 Jose Lopez (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0)
    1 Floyd Mayweather Jr. (0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1)
     
  3. Rumsfeld

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    MORE RAW DATA:

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    Total Lists: 43 (100%)
    First Place: 41 (95.4%)
    Top Three: 43 (100%)
    Top Five: 43 (100%)
    Average Points: 22.3

    2. Sugar Ray Leonard
    Total Lists: 42 (97.7%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 30 (69.8%)
    Top Five: 40 (93%)
    Average Points: 11.1

    3. Henry Armstrong
    Total Lists: 35 (81.4%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 16 (37.2%)
    Top Five: 21 (48.8%)
    Average Points: 6.9

    4. Jose Napoles
    Total Lists: 41 (95.4%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 8 (18.6%)
    Top Five: 22 (51.1%)
    Average Points: 6.4

    5. Kid Gavilan
    Total Lists: 36 (83.7%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 8 (18.6%)
    Top Five: 21 (48.8%)
    Average Points: 5.9

    6. Emile Griffith
    Total Lists: 37 (86.1%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 2 (4.7%)
    Top Five: 13 (30.2%)
    Average Points: 4.4

    7. Tommy Hearns
    Total Lists: 29 (67.4%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 5 (11.6%)
    Top Five: 12 (27.9%)
    Average Points: 3.7

    8. Luis Rodriguez
    Total Lists: 23 (53.5%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 3 (7%)
    Top Five: 7 (16.3%)
    Average Points: 2.7

    9. Barbados Joe Walcott
    Total Lists: 20 (46.5%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 5 (11.6%)
    Top Five: 7 (16.3%)
    Average Points: 2.4

    10. Mickey Walker
    Total Lists: 15 (34.9%)
    First Place: 0 (0%)
    Top Three: 2 (4.7%)
    Top Five: 7 (16.3%)
    Average Points: 1.9
     
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  5. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Rogue" posters?

    I would be interested to see some comment from you on my Robinson v Ryan comparison thread and hear why you think Robinson is so unanimously no 1 and Ryan is not a top 10 Welterweight.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I am not personally taking issue with your list. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.

    However, when one considers that the only two first place votes that did NOT go to Robinson went to fighters who fell outside the overall top ten, I think my description is entirely accurate.