Please Stop It! There is No Blue Print.

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Does it bother anybody else when you read that Castillo layed out the "blue print" or Oscar layed out the "blue print" to beat Floyd. I am not flaming or trying to insult anyone that has posted this, just adding my opinion. Floyd won both of those fights. Also, this isn't construction or architecture....it's boxing. Floyd has changed and gotten better. He's grown up and progressed his game. Nobody will ever fight the same Floyd that Castillo fought or even the same Floyd that Hoya fought. Whatever Miguel Cotto learned from watching Floyd/Castillo I, Floyd learned 100x's that by actually participating in the fight. Do I think Floyd is unbeatable? Absolutely not. But there is NO current blue print to beat him.
     
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  3. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Well seeing that Castillo lost the first fight (very close), but then got clearly outclassed the second fight and that Oscar was dominated in their fight, I don't see any blueprint.

    I think the best I've seen anyone do against Floyd (at WW) was Zab for the first 4 rounds in their fight.
     
  4. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea there is a blue print. Someone who can hit him hard enough to Kayo him with one shot! Floyd is one of the best boxers that ever stepped in the ring. Great offense and defense. I can only see him losing to someone much bigger with boxing smarts.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Hoya can do it.
    Mosley can do it.
    Cotto can do it.
    Wright can do it.
     
  6. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Hoya can't do it, Mosley might but he ducked him when he had the chance, Cotto is still green, Wright can't make the weight.
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Hoya can do it. Wright can make 154lbs
     
  8. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    If he could do it why did he get no where close to beating him when they fought. I had Oscar winning at most 4 rounds the last fight, not to mention he almost got KD from a Floyd bodyshot.
     
  9. lucasehr

    lucasehr Active Member Full Member

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    He's fought a few of those.
     
  10. fitzgeraldz

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    Only fighter that can beat Floyd right now is Kelly Pavlik and he's too big of a fighter.

    No one under or at 154 can beat Floyd ...

    There's no blue print to a guy with 39-0 25KO's ... if the pressures on Floyd will move and counter. Thats an easy fight for Floyd ...

    A blueprint can't be set against a guy who's never came close to losing a fight.

    He's not RJJ who will be up against the ropes and just lean back with his hands up ... Floyd will twist - dip - and pivot out of the situation.

    If anything he can always rely on his speed and agility.
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    There was a blueprint to a guy 43-0 with 31 KO's lol!

    I think there is a jigsaw, rather than a blueprint, to beating Mayweather. Most fighters have put together certain parts for a small period, whereas you have to put it all together for 12 to win the fight - at this stage nobody has done that!
     
  12. David_TheMan

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    Corey Spinxs can beat Mayweather. They won't fight for some reason though. Hell I think Corey has accomplished more than Floyd, he was WW champ, 154 champ, and should be the 160 champ because he put a boxing clinc on Taylor.
     
  13. whit

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    The hoya fight was not as close as people claim and the only reason why people question is beacuse that judge clearly was watching another fight.

    As far as Cotto thats my opinion and I don't think he can.

    Mosley prime for prime sure he had a great chance to do it.

    Wright is alot bigger than Floyd but still I doubt he can even do it.
     
  14. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar could never do it. Most boxers can't handle the movement that Floyd possesses. Oscar have never been able to cut the ring off efficently against movers. Mosely does not adapt will and he wins fights because of his physical strength. He can't match Floyd in boxing IQ. Closest person I think can take Floyd is AM because he can take everything Floyd can dish out and hits hard enough to hurt Floyd with one shot. 70-30 chance that Floyd will beat AM to a UD. Paul williams couldn't handle Quantana's movement so he won't be able to deal with Floyd either. Cotto and Winky is too slow too. Cotto will get outboxed or late stoppage. Cotto's chin is not impressive and is very hittable. Hell Floyd prolly can even take Jermain Taylor for Taylor can't even outbox spinks.
     
  15. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    the only fighter i can think can beat floyd is srl