please stop saying he is an all time great

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by itsa, May 28, 2015.


  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac is an atg. He is not as good as some make him out to be but to move through as many weight classes as he has and to win championships in these different weight divisions, even though some of these championships were cherry-picked, makes him an atg in my book. I would put Pac within my top 50 in the pfp all time ranking which clearly makes him an atg.
     
  2. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny's not a genius but I wouldn't call him an air head
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Both are ATGS but PBF>Pac period.:deal
     
  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely an ATG
     
  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Couldnt agree more

    And it was roids that made a very good fighter into a great one
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I agree Pac is a flawed and limited fighter but I already knew that going into PBF-Pac. With that said the guy has accomplished a lot despite his flaws to say he's not an ATG is being irrational IMO.
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course Pacquiao is an all time great. His legacy was established before he entered the WW division. Please stop.
     
  8. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They're both ATG's, Manny's resume by itself (without the Mayweather loss) I think is slightly better than Mayweather's but take into account when each fought their common opponents, Mayweather has a hard argument to ignore for being superior. The recent developments are intriguing, Pac's post KO6 resurgence and Mayweather's continued dominance despite age creeping in. Bradley is a superb scalp twice, Canelo is a great scalp. Marquez won 2 against Pacman but I can't hold it against the guy fighting a bitter rival 4 times, as with Barrera and Morales. Maidanax2 for Mayweather is a very good win all things considered too. They are both ATG's but the 9-3 dismantling puts Floyd ahead as a whole.
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Yeah he obviously is a great fighter. He couldnt be anything less based off of his weight climbing, record, his wins over ledwaba, Battery, julio, sasakul, lucero, morales, barrera, clottey, mosley, cotto, bradley, marquez, margarito, dlh, etc. He has a pretty deep resume, but like Floyd's you can pick it apart if you really want to.

    Imo someone like bhop is equivilent to floyd and greater than pacquiao but because of politics he doesnt get the same recognition as those 2.
     
  10. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    [emoji38] BE, i cant be bothered with your trolling today.

    Barrera and morales were at their best. So were lucero, battery, ledwaba, clottey, julio, cotto, clottey, etc. Mosley dlh hatton and margarito werent st their best but the way Pacquiao dismantled them is impressive either way.
     
  11. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why ? Does it hurt your feelings ?
     
  12. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morales at his best coming off a loss to Raheem. Cotto recovering from bricked gloves. Clottey is a bum. Let's not forget Manny was with PED trainer Justin Fortune since 2001 adds a big asterisk to the credibility of any of those fights.
     
  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he's no Zaggers, but he's very good :good
     
  14. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This thread must be trolling.

    Only 8 division champ in boxing history with wins over DLH, Barrera, Mosley, Morales, Cotto, Marquez who will all be in the HoF.

    6.5/10 troll rating
     
  15. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    8 division champ, throw in FTOD :rofl:rofl:rofl STILL 118-110 v Floyd doe :deal Donaire was 5 division champ and he got schooled too. Multi division champ is worthless in modern boxing. Both of these hype jobs got schooled!