please stop saying he is an all time great

Manny is an ATG. Probably somewhere between 45-75.

 

If you're so easily convinced then you're an idiot.

 

You're from the UK though right?

No Californian uses the word 'mugs'.

 

If not Bradley certainly it was JMM who ended it.

 

Manny is a terrific fighter. I will say though, I'm more impressed with his achievements at the lighter weights. I'd probably rate his best win at WW to be against Hatton (incredible one sided destruction.) He also did nothing at LW, taking on the weakest LW title holder by far (David Diaz) to pick up an alphabet strap.

I loved his fights at 130 and under. He's a special fighter and definitely an ATG.

 

Hatton win was at JWW not WW.

I agree that his accomplishments above 130 are overblown. But 130 and down he was a beast.

 

I knew it was going to be some casual who doesn't know anything about boxing making this thread about Pacquiao when I read the thread title

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl Farhood, Moretti 118-110. Farhood, Moretti > dumb Pac fans. FACT!

 

Youre one of the Clowns, Malignaggi was refering to...

 

How do you go from an ATG to a hype job by losing one fight against the top guy of your era?

 

Like you know more than Farhood and Moretti. YDSKAB! You can believe whatever makes you feel better about rooting for Bumcquiao. He was schooled and didn't belong in the same ring as an ATG. You can only reference a handful of professionals who thought Pac was competitive. That tells you it was a schooling.

 

LMFAO why is it running when someone limited like Bumcquiao can't cut off the ring? GGG and Kovalev always face runners and they KTFO their opponents. Pac was the one who was scared. FACT! Floyd was schooling him. Farhood 118-110, Lederman 117-111 and Moretti 118-110 all saw it as a schooling. Most professional boxers saw it as a schooling. Pac fans on the other hand are still in denial a month later.

 

Floyd opened my eyes, Floyd been right all this time, Pac never been that great. He didn't just lose to Floyd , he got embarrassed. He got beat so bad I felt sorry for him. It was man against boy. It even looked like pac was about to cry at the end. He didn't even make Floyd sweat. The easiest nights work anyone has ever had in any profession.

 

Cotto, Guerrero and Maidana did more damage to Floyd than Bumquiao.

 

Pacquiao was schooled, but to claim he didn't belong in the ring with Mayweather requires a level stupidity that I can't grasp at this moment in time.

If Pac didn't belong in the same ring as Mayweather then what does that say about Mayweather's previous opponents?