Please tell me about this mythical GGG skillset

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  1. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    damn, i never actually said anything bad about the man. i was just asking lol
    ggg is rapidly becoming the new pacquiao of esb. you can't say anything bad about him or question his skills without people going crazy and getting all sensitive.
     
  2. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Triple Glass needs to move up to 168. Enough of this can blasting that HBO lines up for him.
     
  3. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think he was in top form his last fight. I think you're judging most of what you saw from his last fight.

    If I used his last fight as an indication of where he was, I would agree that he definitely needs a lot of work, but in previous fights he's shown to be incredibly accurate, and cold blooded.
     
  4. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    He nodded 'yes' to Macklin in round 2 I think.

    As in, "yep, good one" *cue Tom Tucker* "now this!" - Macklin goes down.

    Pavlik would have beaten him? :think

    JT's defense sucked. Pavlik's handspeed was very average, the man was predictable loading up on big right hands and the occasional left hook. I disagree.
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Golovkin took a fighter like Macklin who pushed Sturm and Martinez to the brink and destroyed him without a struggle

    Golovkin took a guy like Geale who unified two belts off two hometown guys in Germany which says a lot and beat Mundine and gave Barker hell who gave Martinez problems and wrecked him early

    Destroyed Rosado who pushed Quillin big time. People say this fight exposed GGG or made him look normal but in reality he hurt Rosado and won every round

    Walked down a puncher like Stevens completely shut him down even took his best shot and got rid of him

    Ishida took Pirog 12 and blasted Kirkland and Golovkin cracked him with ease

    For a guy with no skill he has devastated a line of guys who have been difficult for skilled fighters

    Fact is he cuts off and pressures the best of any fighter around

    has a hard and intimidating jab

    his left hook to the body is close to the best in the biz

    watch the way he creates misdirection and opportunities like throwing the right to the head to open up the left to the body

    People say he is hit too much, it happens when you stalk and force the action...never visibly hurt in a fight Ive seen. Would probably be more defensive vs a guy he actually is bothered by the power of.

    To think GGG isnt skilled is blindness and bias
     
  6. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one says he doesn't have any skills. i just think he is predictable
     
  7. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seems like that is what you were implying with the title of this thread.:think
     
  8. Boxer777

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    GGG, along with Kovalev are experts at cutting off the ring.

    You really have to look at GGG's body of work to see how great he is at certain things. Every fighter he has fought, has had their back against the ropes moving from one corner to the next like a scared animal. The reason they do that is because that's the only path they have. GGG doesn't allow them off of the ropes. Tell me how many fighters can do that to their opponents. GGG makes it look easy.

    His body attack is the most devastating in boxing. You give him just enough room and he'll unleash probably the best body shot in boxing, left hook to the liver thrown with tremendous leverage. If it lands, the other fighter is either going down or loses their focus and throws their gameplan out the window.

    GGG also has excellent balance and positioning. There are a lot of pressure fighters in boxing, but do you ever see GGG smother himself or be off balance after missing a punch? Rarely. He uses subtle foot movement and arm control to position himself so he is always in the the position to punch.

    GGG rarely gets clinched because his footwork. He rarely smothers himself because he knows how to create distance. He's always in the position to punch because he knows what to do if he misses a punches and never throws himself out of balance.

    People underestimate GGG against a fight with Ward. He knows how to create distance and his subtle footwork can help him minimize clinching, unlike Kessler and Froch.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    He's not really missing anything and I'm a fan of GGG. GGG is an aggressive fighter who fights one way but does it really well unlike many other aggressive fighters that don't even know how to cut off the ring.
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Looking at his jab his footwork and his ability to punch on the move I think it's safe to yes he fights one way but yes I do think he is well rounded enough to fight a different way if he has to

    I think if in the scenario where he is the one giving ground he would still be dangerous
     
  11. Adil

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    GGG has many styles, you can say this by analysing each fight separately.
    He can be D responsible as in the fight with Stevens for the first 3 rounds until he knew Stevens lost his pop after GGG loaded on Stevens left arm and shoulder like 80 times. But he wasn't a counter puncher in that fight at all.

    In Macklin and Geale fights he decided to scare them right off the bat, was less D responsible, as he felt there is no need for it. In a Geale fight I think he was less calm compared to Macklin, he tried to impress too much - hunted for Geale's head insted of attacking the upper body, shoulder, neck, arms, etc. Macklin fight was very calm and effective.

    In Proksa fight I think he decided to demonstrate a lot of techniques as it was his first fight in the US, was D responsible, showed a lot of tools in how he attacks an opponent.

    In Ishida and Adama fights he was very relaxed to the point of boredom. He didn't have a task to get rid off the opponent asap, so he just played with them, showing good D and elusiveness. In Adama fight he never even turned on the second gear - was fighting lazy.

    In Rosado, Ishida, Adama fights he showed his counter-punching abilities. Though the in Rosado fight he was forced to do so due to being sick and not being able to walk through the opponent. He adjusted his game to counterpunching/boxing after realising he can't just KO Rosado. That was a very smart adjustment - those uppercuts were delicious.

    The result is the same though in all those fights - KO/TKO.
     
  12. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG has a good skillset, he's a master of what he does.

    One thing I've noticed, which no one else has mentioned, is that golovkin is one of the few modern fighters that actually turns his hooks over, the correct way to throw the punch. He has excellent technique.
     
  13. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like how when GGG steps back out of range("gets backed up":lol:) his opponents don't really want to press forward too far.
    Once he gets his feet set again, they go back on the defensive.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Sure he might be effective if he loses ground but not as effective as he's supposed to. Any aggressive fighter forced backwards pretty much loses his aggression and fighting style. It's like forcing a defensive fighter to be aggressive by being in his face all the way, he can be effective for a while but will eventually break down and completely lose his defense.
     
  15. Rock0052

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    He's an exceptional counterpuncher.

    One of the reasons you see him having "leaky defense" when he's pressuring guys is that he's trying to draw a counter out of them. He's very good at making the other guy just miss without taking himself out of position for a countering opportunity. He's difficult to hit flush between the slipping, blocking, and parrying.

    What people think is a weakness is really Golovkin setting a trap. The less he's concerned about what's coming back, the more brazen he'll get. Somebody thinking they can load up and land massive counters on him is actually playing right into his plan. You can see this by how many punches he'll throw much lighter than full force to set up the counter and keep the opponent guessing. Try to counter, and you'll likely either get knocked down or out. Shell up, and he'll take his time breaking you down.

    The end result is that most fighters get mentally exhausted as they're getting physically beat down. He's an incredibly frustrating fighter to fight because he's not your every day pressure puncher with one-shot power (which is rare enough in it's own right, as those guys are usually attrition fighters).