Yip I agree. When chess grandmasters are in a losing position they can't come back from, they tip their king over. And that's just chess. Combat sports you're risking getting severe brain damage trying to battle through a hopeless position. So many great fighters can't even speak properly because they refused to tip their king over. A good chess player knows when his number is up and you can say the same about a good fighter. No need to prolong the agony for yourself or your family. Live to fight another day and you can learn from your loss because you still have your brain cells.
This poll is mad. 41 yes to only 11 no? Have you guys gone mental? Joshua in no way shape or form Quit. There's no way you can even remotely argue that. He got up and wanted to continue but the referee stopped it. Now his body language may have not been responsive to the ref, but that's not quitting. That's being buzzed, tired, not knowing where you are and being in the process of recovering. You wanna talk about a fighter quitting, look at Billy Joe Saunders. THAT'S quitting. Lets not accuse warriors like AJ of quitting.
He quit and meekly gave up the HW Champion belts to rolly polly, rather than go out as a true champion would.
Absolutely. He Quit. If any other fighter spat his gumshield out, didn't comply with the referee's instructions, just stood in the corner and didn't move, didn't put his hands up, didn't walk forward.. We would all say he quit.
He tried to cover it so he could leave some doubt and deny it later. Just like getting up at 9.5 seconds hoping the ref will wave it off. So in that way he didn't even have enough integrity to honestly quit. He made it clear he was not enthusiastic about continuing the fight, knowing a ref is likely to stop the fight due to all the KDs. If the ref hadn't waved it off, I'm sure he would have continued to be unresponsive until the corner stopped it. People pretend boxers can't be cowards because they 'get in the ring', but they absolutely can be. They're accustomed to fighting so it's not the big deal it is to regular people. Plenty of average people would get in the ring for the money these star pros get. Their lives are not on the line in 99.9% of fights. And fighters like AJ are almost always going in with physical and training advantages, which is in no way heroic. You can tell the bully type cowards in boxing by the way they deal with adversity. It's all fun and games when you're bashing up inferior/smaller/older fighters. But what happens when you're under real threat? You quit like AJ!
Part of the issue is with the subtle variations within the meaning of the word 'quit'. But yeah he didn't want to continue and showed that through body language... https://i.imgur.com/rnWt1d2.jpeg
Yea he quit, there was something very strange about that fight, AJ was clearly not fit to fight so I try not to be over critical but yea he quit.
I think the confusing here stems from ignorance regarding the No Mas grading system. Personally there's nothing I enjoy more than watching a spinless beta chicken embarrass and humiliate themselves in public and bring shame upon them, their family and their countrymen, especially on a big stage with millions of viewers around the world who've tuned in to watch it, by pulling a quit job but as much as I would love this to be a Category A No Mas it simply wasn't.
He spit out his mouthpiece and walked back to his corner ignoring the ref’s instructions. He wanted out.
Nah, he certainly looked shook, but the ref stopped it... At no point did Joshua say I quit... In fact he looked disappointed at the stoppage...that being said he was done.
It's obvious when a fighter quits if you know what to look for and aren't biased. It was obvious that AJ quit, just as it was obvious that BJS quit.
It's not as bad as someone I know that think's he's everyone is out to get him, though it's probably worse because he works in intelligence. I saw know, really he just follows me around and watches from a distance, pretty annoying really.