POLL - Do you think Tyson Fury used the STEROID NANDROLONE? (Bribed farmer + excuses inside)

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Do you think Tyson Fury was guilty of using PEDS (nandronone)

  1. Yes

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Nandrolone is produced NATURALLY in the body

    Tyson Fury's nandrolone was endogenous

    UKAD took over 18 months to notify of failure

    Tyson Fury is innocent

    His body produces 50x the amount of testosterone as a normal man naturally.
     
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  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only real excuse is that nobody in his right mind would dope with nandrolone on purpose in a drug tested sport. It has a clearance time of many months, possibly years.
    However could be he ingested it accidentally while doping with something else contaminated by nandrolone as i do belive it has to be injected?
    But im not an expert, i just usually do a short read up when someobody fails for aomething
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Of course, the old, "Everyone else is so it's OK my fave does it too..." bullsh!t excuse.

    At least NOW you admit canelo intentionally used PEDs. Good on you, must've been tough to come to jesus on that.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Yup and Fury was literally 1 fight away from his title shot with Wlad

    Not that it made a difference because UKAD didn't inform Fury for over 18 months!

    Also during this period before Fury was informed he was tested 8 times, he passed all of the tests.

    You can literally get EYEDROPS that will make you fail a nandrolone test OR you can fail the 2ng/ml limit just off natural production alone!
     
  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Oink, Oink, Oooooooooink. A ducker that eats boar. You can't make this stiff up. Dude is guilty.
     
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes and it shows how unknowledgeable he was to use s drug that basically has the longest detection time of any

    He doesn't, or didn't then have chemist's like Wlad, Aj, Usyk etc. I actually believe Fury was natty at a time, then found 'Big Rory' at the local gym and bought some drugs

    Seriously, you would be a fool to use nandrolone. Unless he actually did know what he was doing, but was unsuccessful at masking it

    Stop being so naive. The majority of these elite athletes are going to try and get am edge, just not all gets caught

    They are all on Steroids, just like Nate Diaz once said and ironically was busted himself at a time
     
  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    In fairness Ufc has notoriously weak testing. I'm sure Ngannou's ripped 272lb is au naturel.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As much as I have come to despise Fury and believe that he would do something like that, UKAD did not prove their case either. I have never seen an explanation of why they let if go by 16 months and let the Hammer fight take place if he actually failed a test. I further wonder that UKAD was afraid to take it to court, and settled with him by adding lip service to Fury's cocaine suspension. I would further on top of that have to know why he is fighting in the UK again when UKAD said that if he came back to the UK they would pursue the new evidence of the testimony of Carefoot, the farmer of the "uncastrated boar."

    I am not saying that Fury didn't do it...in fact, his behavior towards Usyk looks a lot like "projection." But UKAD's position was not proven, either, and indeed, if they did catch him, they got a lot of explaining to do.

    Just a bad situation and another black eye for boxing all around.
     
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  9. kirk

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  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I always said that he could have possibly been using. My point back then was that he did pass a hair follicle test which PED experts including Victor Conte said exonerated him and was a damn good argument that the traces of Clenbuterol were from Mexican beef, since its well known that Mexico had huge issues with beef being tainted with Clenbuterol.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He was caught with traces of Clenbuterol only leading up to his rematch with Golovkin.

    According to the lab and many experts the amount found was consistent with eating tainted meat.

    He also submitted to a Hair Follicle Test which would have picked up Clenbuterol had he used it deliberately because the amounts would be in higher dosage than meat, and it could trace up to a year of usage.
     
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  12. MrMeredo

    MrMeredo New Member banned Full Member

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    I don't know, nor do I care, but I'd like to bestow your 5000th like. Congrats!
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is the only reason they gave as to the 16 month delay. Nandrolone is a notoriously difficult PED to prove guilt with as it can be naturally produced by the body and the thresholds for what is deemed irregular are well a bit of a grey area. Situations like this is why they introduced biological passports to gauge a physiological baseline for athletes and instead of detecting actual drugs in an athletes system they look for unusual changes in biology which can only be attributed to doping.

    I assume they didn't have enough data for a baseline so continued to test him over a period of time to see if this adverse result was simply a by product of his normal bodily functions or the introduction of an exogenous substance.

    But yeah the whole situation was dodgy and there really should have been some kind of inquiry because this damaged UKAD's reputation in regards to how it was handled and there should of been a review in the process to give more transparency on UKAD's processes. If you can't even trust the anti dopy body that is testing athletes how can you have any faith in any sports in the UK.

    While I doubt there was any corruption I do think there was a level of incompetence in dealing with Fury's case, but that doesn't clear Fury in my opinion of wrong doing but it does put into question how many other British athletes are not being tested enough and if the process of handling adverse test results is being handled properly.

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  14. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    How was it common knowledge if UKAD didn't release the result for 16 months? Were there whispers :susurro:? The whole case is a mess.

    Roid Jones - first a nasal decongestant, then a supplement.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Hair follicle tests are inconsistent - ESPECIALLY those for red haired people
     
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