POLL: Mosley vs Kimbo at HW

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Drexl, Feb 21, 2008.


  1. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    Well, you mention skillull with his hands, and use the video as supporting evidence. Skillful would imply he has speed..I mean, aside from basic non combat technique, what else can you really gather from a pad video? So, again, my point is this: Please review a video of a, let us say, Tyson, hitting the mitts, then comparre the spped and technique to KS...and realize the discrency. if a video of SSM hitting mitts was floating around, this would be an even better example, as it would compare the two subjects. But, i dont recall one. Face it, Kimbo is slow and telegrapghs his shots...in a boxing ring, with boxing rules, this will equal peril when faced with a technically skilled fighter.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    You keep talking about biceps... maybe you are a little bit gay? I don't see any of us saying that Kimbo wins because he is muscular. What we are clearly saying is that his size, coupled with his skilled hands are too much for Shane Mosley.
     
  3. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Mosley would possibly die.
     
  4. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    Man Drexl..you have mor Bull**** than a Texas farm. You will distort anything to try and make your point. Now RJJ is 190. Thats your scenario ... and yours only. The point is, the size difference is nto relevant, as it is negated by speed. Did not we just talk about this yesterday?
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Wow, you are dumb.:rofl So only guys with great speed are skillful?:lol: Thanks for the info, you are a genius.
     
  6. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Kimbo could've probably beaten Peter Mc Neely and yes Kimbo does have better skill than Ray. I would love to see how good Kimbo is by putting him in there with a guy like Mighty Mo. Then we will know better of how skilled he truly is. I do think Mosely would've had to overcome a huge deficit in strenghth. I think that Kimbo has enough skill that he would over come most top 10 welterweight contenders.
     
  7. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    1) Roy would not weigh 168.
    2) I pointed out why above.

    Answer this - is the difference in power between prime Tyson (215) and Butterbean at 350lbs the same as the difference in power between prime Tyson and Prime Finito Lopez?

    The size difference is greater after all....
     
  8. carll68

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    Brutha,..you realy should lay off the personal attacks, ******. Do you really want to make this personal and start slinging insults? Yeah..i am gay because I noticed Briggs is huge, and Kimbo is as well. yep...full blown Homo. Grow the **** up. My point on this is that you must be enamored by his physique, because I dont see anything else that shows me he would be competitive in a boxing ring agaisnt an elite boxer.
     
  9. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    OK, consider Roy to be 168 if you like. I ws only pointing out that the only time he fought a Heavyweight, ROY HIMSELF felt the need to go up to 190+. Why do you think that is? Why didn't he just weight 175 like usual? He didn't just eat more, he went on an intensive training regime specifically to put on muscular weight.

    Why was that?
     
  10. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    You're moving the goalposts again.

    You said Prime RJJ, not RJJ weighing 190.

    Now tell me why 21 pounds means a guy can beat a professional 400 pound heavyweight, but take away 21 pounds and they can't beat a 400 pound novice??
     
  11. carll68

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    What else can be derived from a video of mitt hitting? Really? Speed and technique..thats it. I dotn see the technique and overwhelming..so I am certain you must have been talking speed. Listen jackoff, I dont really think your idol is very talented with hs hands as it related to taking on top tier boxers in a boxing match.....how am I wrong?
     
  12. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Why did Roy decide he needed to be 190+ to fight Ruiz?
     
  13. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    :deal
     
  14. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Why did you say Prime RJJ would beat Butterbean, but are now moving the goalposts?

    Why does 21 pounds mean a guy can beat a professional 400 pound heavyweight, but take away 21 pounds and they can't beat a 400 pound novice?
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    I have answered that already. LEARN TO READ.

    I'm not saying 168lb Roy couldn't beat Butterbean, I just pointed out that ROY HIMSELF decided he needed to be bigger to fight a HW. And only a 220-240 one at that.




    Is the difference in power between prime Tyson (215) and Butterbean at 350lbs the same as the difference in power between prime Tyson and Prime Finito Lopez?

    The size difference is greater after all....

    :deal