Roy at 168 wouldn't so much hurt Butterbean, but he'd get his respect so Roy could dictate the pace and distance. Yes, I believe a 147lb fighter couldn't achieve that. But it seems you disagree and that's fine. Why discuss it further?
...as is the size difference. And we're back to square one. :yep I'm going home now, you all enjoy yourselves and I'll check in tomorrow. :hi:
I forgot about the 02 battle of the buldge, but the elusive Jones would be more of a challenge than fighting a near 50 yearold for 10 rounds, the man would be spent in 6, and we be an easy target for Jones after that, he would be so tired his hands be at his waist and reduced to winging punches even a blind can see. Butterbeans only chance in that fight would be to take Jones out in the first round, if it goes past the 3rd round, it's money in the bank for Jones.
Actually Holmes I believe was 53 when he fought Butterbean. Okay he was 52 just about four months shy of 53.
Hsnt history shown us again and again that skill offsets size? Imean as far back as lil Jack Dempsey, 187 Lbs KO'ing Jess Willard and Tony Drake..both close to or over 250lbs.....these are jsut recognizabel examples...What about Sharkey Carnerra...????
:rofl Even worse for Butterbean then, it just goes to show how far away Butterbean is in skill level, compared to even a journeymen fighter.
Big difference. Once again. Give me an example of a welterweight... not just any welterweight, a welterweight that jumped up from Lightweight... beating a 234 pounder who has skill. I would even understand if Kimbo didn't carry the power that he does. If Kimbo had his size, and skillset... but didn't punch like a mule then I could understand a bit more. However, the man hits with BIG power, and he has enough talent with his hands to land his punches. Especially considering that Mosley would have to be so far into Kimbo's range in order to land anything himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZszE900t8 230lb man vs 400lb man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNMgevrH8EI 230lb man vs 370lb of muscle. Ko punch. If these guys can beat another with 150+ in weight difference, then a 150lb man will beat a 240lb man. You will say thats different, how? Why? Its only different in the boxing world because the 150lb man would usually be fighting an equally skilled 230lb man, however in this case it is a skilled 230lb man against a nonskilled 400lb man. Exactly what Mosley-Kimbo will be, a 100lb difference separated by lightyears in skill. Skill separates the 2.
Theres no example because open class starts from 200lb. However that open class starts there because WW's would be fighting equally skilled 200lb men, as there are plenty of 200lb men to go around. Because there arent many 400lb men, the talent pool isnt too large thus when a 200lb man faces someone who is 300lb+, they usually win with skill. In this case we can use the same example that if not too many people who weighed 200lb existed, the talent pool would much smaller thus 150lb men would overcome them with skill. In the example we are using, it is exactly that, a noneskilled 240lb man. In the instance there was open weight class, a guy called Royce Gracie(150lb) was beating guys who outweighed him by 300lb. As MMA caught on and the talent pool got bigger, skill could not longer overcome size as the size also came along with skill. Simple to say, history has shown us time and time again that skill>size but size+skill>>skill.
Any man over 200 pounds has the ability to knock out his opponent. The frame is already big enough to deliver that sort of blow. However, a 147 pound man is an entirely different story.
Right..so the 147lbs man jsut needs to eat twinkies and doughnuts for a year, and he is all set...please man..back that statement up with sceince....everyone else here is giving you real world examples...all you can give us is nonsense..your logic is something like "But Buster douglas said on Leno in 1991 that any man over 200lbs can knock out another man...he didnt say under"..
If Mosley was a light heavyweight and about 6" tall, I would say that he would beat Kimbo but he's not and Kimbo is to much for him. The people that say Mosley would ko him easy have obviously not boxed and don't realize how difficult it is.
Thank you... and I agree. If Mosley had his same skill set, and was a natural light heavyweight, I think that he would outbox him as well.