POLL: Terence Allan Crawford Vs. Vergil Ortiz Jr.

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Terence Allan Crawford Vs. Vergil Ortiz Jr.

  1. Crawford By Decision

  2. Crawford By T/KO

  3. Ortiz By Decision

  4. Ortiz By T/KO

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesn't looks that Crawford too is ready for Spence.
    Spence does have 2 belts, Crawford for long years is sitting on 1 tittle belt and didn't looked that he rushed to prove his level in unification fight with Spence.
     
    Surrix, Nov 29, 2020
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  2. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ofc Ortiz also doesn't yet have enough good resume to have good position in negotiations regards to fight purses vs Spence.
    He needs at least some 3, better 4 - 5 good wins to get better position there.
    Next half year doesn't looks that someone will rush to fight vs Spence Jr. only nice talks and a bit laughable Terence demands for split in purse bid. Spence does have more tittles and deserves more than half of purse if he will fight vs Crawford.
     
    Surrix, Nov 29, 2020
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  3. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ESPN needs to start getting Vergil and Boots some mainstream platform time. Get these guys faces out there to more people. They’re both studs.
     
    Diddy, Nov 29, 2020
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  4. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the fight happens today Crawford .. in a year or 2 It will be Ortiz.
     
    Hanz Cholo, Nov 29, 2020
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  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Boxing makes me think that 'Ortiz' is like one of the onliest hipsanic names they is. But around here nobody latino and we got all sorts of names, not all these repeats.
     
    Boxed Ears, Nov 29, 2020
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Stop!
     
    George Crowcroft, Nov 30, 2020
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Crawford is obviously much more experienced than Vergil but sometimes experience, skill and even overall ability can be trumped by god-given punching power, especially if the more skilled and experienced fighter cannot take a pop on the whiskers and the puncher's power is of the savage variety.

    I'll be honest with you and admit that I haven't carried out the scientific research yet to support my hypothesis, but let's just say I have a strong hunch Vergil hits significantly harder than Cuban leprechaun Gamboa and that if he were to detonate a big right hand on Crawford's mandible section the effects would be considerably more devastating than they were from the innocuous love tap the Cuban leprechaun almost sparked Crawford out with. Vergil's power ratio is significantly higher than Crawford's mandibular fortitude ratio so all he has to do is be able to connect on Crawford's mandible section with the required amount of force to render him unconscious and this all boils down to whether you believe he possesses the speed, accuracy, timing and technical ability to do so and I for one believe he can.
     
    Serge, Nov 30, 2020
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  8. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz is a big boy but moves like a bantamweight and hits like a middleweight. I dont think crawford stands a chance.
     
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  9. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    A flush right hand from Ortiz disintegrates the sleepy-eyed sociopath prompting everyone to ask Where Bud done went?
     
    Pakkuman, Nov 30, 2020
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  10. tealt

    tealt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford has like 4 to 6 fights left and I doubt Ortiz is going to be one of them.
     
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  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe Vergil is a beast in the making...................he ain't ready for the top 5 yet. He definitely isn't ready for an aggressive dog like Crawford.
     
    northpaw, Nov 30, 2020
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  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Then when Crawford schools and beats the **** outta them. I expect him to get full credit with no excuses about he was too young and wasn't ready or he wasn't that good to begin with. Crawford is too complete for either fighter and he has experience with a better boxing mind as well. There's levels in boxing and neither are on his.
     
    Pimp C, Nov 30, 2020
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  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like this. Spence and Ortiz Jr had finished him in distance if they had fight today.

    Terence likes me but they aren't Machine to bully with his S/C level superiority.
    They will beat up Crawford because he NEVER EVER IN HIS LIFE had such phyisical level fighter close to Ortiz Jr in the ring.
     
    Surrix, Nov 30, 2020
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You overplay Ortiz who's no where as proven or good as Crawford to downplay Crawford. Power is overrated skills aren't when will people realize that? Power can be neutralized or it can simply be taken. If you think power alone is enough to beat a elite skilled boxer like Crawford you're high. What happens when Crawford takes Ortiz power and doesn't fall like everyone else what's his plan b? Those are the type of questions you have to ask yourself when looking at this match up. Do you honestly think Ortiz has the ability to outbox Crawford??? Also can Ortiz take Crawford's power? He's never faced anyone with his power or skill level and his ability to switch stances on the fly.
     
    Pimp C, Nov 30, 2020
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  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawdord should fight with Spence Jr.
    Isn't Spence Jr yet not enough old for Crawford to fight with?
     
    Surrix, Nov 30, 2020
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