POLL: Was Kovalev vs. Ward a robbery?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GGGunbeatable, Nov 19, 2016.


Was it a robbery?

  1. Yes, Kovalev should have won

    343 vote(s)
    74.7%
  2. No, I thought Ward won

    116 vote(s)
    25.3%
  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    We expect GG's fans and Pacs fans to be mad as hell lmao.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't try to pretend Ward won.

    Choose any boxing criteria you like to score rounds.

    Ward didn't land more. He didn't throw more. He didn't have a better defense. He didn't control the action. He didn't score more knockdowns. Hell, didn't even control the clinches. Kovalev wrapped him up on the inside and walked him backwards throughout the fight.

    NAME ANY WORLD TITLE fight where the champion outjabbed his challenger, outpunched his challenger, threw more shots, dropped his challenger ... controlled the clinches, inflicted more damage to the opponent ... AND THE CHAMPION LOST A UNANIMOUS DECISION?

    NAME ONE OTHER EXAMPLE?

    This was bad.

    If Ward beat Kovalev like Kovalev beat Ward - in every way - and dropped Kovalev, too ... and the fight was in Russia and three Russian judges scored unanimously for Kovalev ...

    Nobody would be saying ... "well, I wouldn't call it a robbery."

    Hell yes it was.
     
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  3. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's a difference between a robbery and a controversial decision.

    This fight was not as clear as your poll reflects. You should add.

    Could of gone either way

    And

    Draw
     
  4. badgerbhoy

    badgerbhoy New Member Full Member

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    You're a walloper mate.
    That was a robbery.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then name another world title fight where the champion landed more punches (jabs and power shots), threw more punches, flattened his challenger, inflicted more damage on his challenger, and still lost all his titles via unanimous decision?

    IT happens usually ... NEVER.

    It's a robbery. And any example you might find would be a robbery, too.
     
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  6. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    As the fight went on? By the championship rounds Wards face was even more busted, seemed even more wobbly and was getting tagged even cleaner by jabs (hence why majority of ringside observers had him losing the last few rounds). Again how did the guy who was hurt more, busted up more and retreating land the more authoritative shots?
     
  7. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice little fairy tale you have going on there.
    If you are going off of compubox since when was that even trustworthy? Those numbers are always bogus anyway and don't even reflect the fight as it happens round by round. If Kovalev landed that many powershots and even jabs Ward would be dead.

    Be objective and pull your head out of your ass.
     
  8. Huberth

    Huberth Active Member Full Member

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    Rematch should be held in neutral venue with neutral judges. otherwise ward=fmj=Las vegas=3 American judges
     
  9. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I'll say it wasn't, Ward could conceivably win but you'd have to be biased to score it for him in my opinion. Basically, only give Kovalev the clearer rounds whilst giving every borderline/close round to Ward. That's how I feel to be honest.
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So TWO official judges AGREED the champion lost round six, round seven, round eight, round nine, round ten, round eleven and round twelve.

    Who on this board gave the last seven rounds in a row ... all seven ... to Ward? Clean sweep?

    So did those judges feel Ward won every round when he wasn't dropped or wobbled?

    What you have here is the definition of a robbery.
     
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  11. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    What the actual ****... i dno how you can give kova any late rounds... ward had problems early he kept going back v kova and when trying to smother and get in would do it without the jab. once he started finding his rhythem and timing he made kova look silly at times. some rounds kova landed some good shots ezpecially his jab but ward almost shut out all the later half of the rounds. i thought the only round that was a swing round and hard to score was the 3rd.
     
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  12. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The rematch should take place in the Islamic State in Iraq. No bias there.
     
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  13. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched this fight in a bar full of Ward fans. They called bull**** on the Hooker decision and they booed LOUDLY at the Ward decision. Even a mostly black and brown USA crowd full of beer, cheering for Ward, and they were, the entire fight, knew he lost. I think people get brainwashed by the commentary. The bar was so loud you could not hear the commentary. Several people were saying this is why boxing is ****.
     
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  14. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    It can be described as a robbery though because boxing allows the same offenders, these inept robber judges, at the top level who seem to fear no review nor punishment of and for their actions and continue on to rob fighters and fans again and again.

    To be a professional sport you have to administer it properly and you should be held accountable to the same standards as any job. If you were in charge would you hire the judges tonight?
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll be objective. If Ward beat up Kovalev like Kovalev beat up Ward, and the fight was in Russia, and the Russian judges gave a unanimous decision to Kovalev, I'd call it a robbery.

    Because it was. The scorecards reflect it. Two judges GAVE THE LAST SEVEN ROUNDS to Ward.

    Did you see those LAST SEVEN ROUNDS as a clean sweep, too? If so, pull your head out of your ass.
     
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