POLL: Was Kovalev vs. Ward a robbery?

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Was it a robbery?

  1. Yes, Kovalev should have won

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  2. No, I thought Ward won

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    25.3%
  1. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    look i hate using compubox 'stats'.... but ward landed more jabs according to that ****

    also most of kov outlanding ward by power punches were due to round to where he landed 16 according to compubox and ward landed 3..... so using stats to judge a fight is fuycked up. the 10 point scoring system is judged on many things....compubox and nose bleeds are not used
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fine. Use the official scorecards. Two judges agreed and gave Ward the last SEVEN ROUNDS IN A ROW.

    Did you?

    It was a bad verdict. There's no way around this.

    By any measure, it was a bad verdict.
     
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  3. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    WHy did Kovalev and his people agree to these terms? Kovalev had him early and didn't put him away. Make all the excuses you want Kovalev didn't finish off Ward and I knew he would lose on the cards.
     
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  4. Impulse_0

    Impulse_0 Active Member Full Member

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    I just watched the fight and I scored it 114-113 for the Krusher but had it even going into the final round.

    The final round was extremely difficult to score so no this fight was not a robbery. Ward won rounds by smothering Kovalev and cleaner punches in the later rounds. A lot of Kovalevs work was caught by Wards gloves or didn't land clean.

    Great fight that could have gone either way
     
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  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kov outlanded Ward in 7 rounds, according to Compubox. But there was margin of a single punch between them in several rounds. Plus, Ward had a higher connect percentage, which is something that can sway judges.

    I had Kov in front, but Ward had enough success in enough rounds that cries of "robbery" are probably unwarranted.
     
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  6. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No many rounds were really close and could of gone either way. The fight could of gone either way with a slight edge towards Kovalev for the KD. Hence controversial decision and not a robbery. If you cannot tell the difference between a controversial decision or a robbery and need Compubox you are as casual as they come. Anyone who relies on Compubox doesn't know sh*t period.

    Like I said if Kovalev landed that many powershots and jabs on Ward he would be dead. He is a murderous puncher and Wards chin is nowhere near the level of even Pascals. Take your bias sh*t somewhere else.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward's battered face tells a different story.
     
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  8. Impulse_0

    Impulse_0 Active Member Full Member

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    No one said Ward didn't get hit by punches.

    Do you understand how boxing is scored? Its not based on how fighters look after...
     
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  9. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do know your glove can hit your face and mark you up right? Especially with as hard as Kovalev punches but those punches still don't count.
     
  10. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he doesn't.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've been following boxing probably before you were born.

    Ward didn't win that fight.

    The stats, the knockdown, controlling the action and clinches, the damage to the fighters ... Kovalev won in every regard ...

    It was a bad verdict.

    You and others seem to want to say -- well many rounds were close - so it's okay Ward won. Close doesn't mean Ward won them.

    Rounds can be close, and a guy loses all 12 rounds. Everyone accepts that.

    But Kovalev won this fight by EVERY MEASURE ... the judges just didn't give it to him.

    It was a bad score.
     
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  12. caine

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    It seems like this type of thing is happening all the time now.
    There was a time when it was the odd dodgy result every now and again that soured the sport.
    Almost every fight card has a couple of results that look bad.
    It is not good for the sport.
     
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  13. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Yep - there are times you wished you could give 9.9 rounds but you can't under the ten point must system.

    I scored Kov 2 points up - started strong, weakened as it stretched but Ward ran out of enough rounds to peg back the lead. To give Ward every one of the close rounds as a judge is showing too much favouritism IMO - Ward getting walked down in quite a few of those close rounds, ring generalmanship and difference in power must be considered as well as close punch numbers.
     
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  14. On_The_Ropes

    On_The_Ropes Active Member Full Member

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    I had Kovalev winning by 5 rounds so yes that's a robbery IMO. Crazy how you can have 3 American judges in a fight if this magnitude.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know exactly how boxing is scored. And Kovalev won by every measure. The judges just didn't give it to him.

    Therefore, it was a bad verdict.