Poll: Who currently has the best single win at Heavyweight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MismatchHypejob, Aug 23, 2023.


Best single heavyweight win

  1. Usyk over AJ

    21 vote(s)
    22.8%
  2. Fury over Wilder/Klitschko

    61 vote(s)
    66.3%
  3. Ruiz over AJ

    9 vote(s)
    9.8%
  4. Wilder vs Ortiz 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Joyce's decimation of granite chin Parker

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Zhang's bullying of Joyce

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  1. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously Fury’s win over Wlad.

    The only way someone could vote for Usyk’s wins over AJ would be if they believe AJ to be better than Wlad which would be absurd.
     
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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Fury's win over Wlad. And not only the most valuable win in the heavyweight division, but perhaps also the most valuable win in professional boxing.
    Bivol's win over Canelo could be compared.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope
     
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  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Yes, sad to say but Wilder and Fury will forever be linked. OP probably didn't even realize he did that. LOL
     
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  5. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz Jr KO Joshua.

    Until that KO, everybody was only talking about Wilder vs Joshua. That KO stirred the division, exposed AJ & ended his hype, caused Fury vs Wilder 2 and thus also ended the Wilder hype.
     
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  6. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of the fights listed nothing goes close to Fury's win over Wlad.
     
  7. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    :facepalm::facepalm:
    @DaRealJT @Mickc @MAD_PIGE0N
    @northpaw

    Usyk’s win over AJ (1 or 2):
    It seems you guys do not quite understand the concept of size advantage.
    • Usyk’s third fight at heavyweight and he 8-4s an AJ that actually perform good and composed (this is fact) despite casuals bickering otherwise.
    • He beat a guy 3 inches taller outweighed by 20lbs and giving away 4inch in reach. Why are you guys ignoring this?
    • Usyk beat this guy soundly and with BOXING skill and actually landing punches.
    • Ruiz beat a compromised AJ. We can all see it in the prefight build you’re all deluding yourselves. Even with this compromised AJ he knocked Ruiz down with the first combo landed, wrongly thought he was finished (well tbh AJ landed a big right hand after the KD so this is not surprising he thought that) he then proceeded to swing away with no care in the world to shine on his American debut. It was more AJ losing this fight than Ruiz winning. That KD (back of the head pretty much)messed up AJs balance all fight.
    Fury’s win over Wlad:
    • Wlad was gunshy in the fight before against Jennings barely throwing the right hand. Let’s not pretend this was all Fury’s doing.
    • Fury had height advantage (2 inches) and reach advantage (4 inches) over Wlad. Usyk beat a guy who had all physical dimension advantages over him, Fury did not.
    • You guys are talking about Klitschkos reign as if beat anyone good - should have got a DQ against his best win in Povetkin and grabbed broken foot toe Haye pretty much for the night. You can bang on about title defences all you like his resume has question marks everywhere.
    • You guys are also completely neglecting what Fury did in the ring against Wlad. It absolutely was not a shut out - Fury won 7-8 rounds with most of these rounds being won by single digit jabs (2 or 3 jabs , go ahead watch it back and tell me I’m wrong), scuffing (illegal) inside slaps and show boating. He was barely landing punches it was “don’t hit, and don’t get hit”….It was the most pathetic performance ever and you all can hand in your boxing fan badges for even suggesting Fury’s performance was better than Usyk’s who landed clean punches throughout. ****ing embarassing you lot
     
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  8. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Twist it how you want but at the end of the day,your OWN poll shows that you are in the minority and it’s not even close with this way of thinking.
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's funny how you're not remotely even-handed in your invective/hyperbole. Wlad was 39, ok (and by far AJ's best win at 41, in Britain, in a life and death). Wilder is a right hand, ok (why are Matchroom company men/AJ cheerleaders Bellew and Nelson saying that AJ isn't ready for a right hand?)

    But AJ is...AJ?

    Not the hypejob bodybuilder who quit in 7 against taco tits three fights prior to getting schooled by Usyk?

    "20lbs more than Usyk"

    That boosts Usyk's position P4P but I don't see what it has to do directly with the absolute quality of a win at heavyweight. Fury's best performances have been better in absolute terms, partly because he's massive. If Usyk doesn't want to face a size deficit (which isn't necessarily a disadvantage vs all styles) and be judged by heavyweight standards then he could still be campaigning at cruiser.
     
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  10. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wlad was just short of 40. going through a breakup with preggo fiancee. Fury ducked Ustinov because an uncle had a tummy ache. Fury threw away his prime ducking the rematch.
     
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  11. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Majority are dumbasses anyway
     
  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Usyk over Joshua given the size difference and the manner in which he won. Fury vs Wlad was even size wise, and Fury was fighting a nearly 40 year old Wlad which he won in an extremely negative manner. It's the greater win historically but not when you compare where both fighters were in their careers.
     
  13. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You’ve literally said jack **** here
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Fury over Wlad by a country mile.

    Followed by Fury over Wilder

    Followed by Usyk over AJ.
     
  15. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MismatchHypejob is overly taking into consideration SIZE or P4P in his handicapping of these fights. The way the poll is going, now a runaway for Fury, most responders are not factoring in size differences.

    For example AJ is longer than Ruiz, more height & reach. But Fatso is much heavier then AJ. Btw, I actually think Ruiz over AJ gives Usyk over AJ a run for the money. But Usyk edges Ruiz since he won his rematch w/ AJ while Ruiz lost.

    If the OP's poll was Best single heavyweight win P4P then his arguments would have much more merit.
     
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