Poll: Who currently has the best single win at Heavyweight?

"Usyk’s win over AJ (1 or 2):"

Usyk had sparred many heavyweights including Wlad and beaten heavyweights in the WSB and part time heavies at cruiser. Coming off the Chisora fight to challenge in his 3rd heavyweight fight was a great benefit for Usyk as Usyk was underestimated.

P4P ≠ absolute quality of wins.

Usyk absorbed 247 punches from Joshua over 24 rounds according to Compubox. He was more effectively offensively than Fury in terms of landing punches but far less effective defensively if we look at the Wlad fight (86-52 Fury) and Fury was far better in both respects vs Wilder 2 (82-34 Fury, KO7). From a longevity and risk-minimisation perspective, getting hit less is very beneficial and so long as you win the fight, takes precedence over how many punches you land.

Usyk beat a Joshua who three fights prior had suffered the most humiliating defeat in combat sports history. How's that for being compromised?

"Fury’s win over Wlad"

It was entirely Fury's doing, Wlad was always a conservative fighter post-Brewster. Fury cut Wlad's offensive output from 545 vs Jennings to 231 and he cut his landed punches from 144 to 52.

P4P No.2 Wlad reigned for 9.5 years at the top and generally beat opponents in more dominant fashion than all or almost all of his rivals. Perhaps Briedis and Joshua are "not good", according to some utterly subjective standard. And in so far as Wlad's A-side antics and fouling made him more difficult to beat, beating him was MORE impressive.

Fury won 8-9 rounds on the German cards, 11-1 on Boxrec and 10-2 on Eyeonthering. But you can have your personal scorecard that says Fury won 7 rounds or lost or whatever. Fury broke an all-time defensive record and dethroned Wlad, that's all she wrote.

 

If it's P4P then who knows, it's hugely subjective. You could argue that Usyk's win over Chisora was better than Fury's 2nd in P4P terms as Usyk was 3 stone lighter than Chisora and Fury 1.5 stone heavier (as well as vastly taller and longer, if you include length as an additional consideration). But as far as absolute dominance and absolute quality goes, Usyk's was a vastly inferior performance by every metric. Unlike @MismatchHypejob Usyk has no problem with this as he's happy to campaign in an unlimited weight class, unlike the vast majority of pro boxers who need their P4P protections.

 

I wonder if Puritty/Sanders/prime Brewster and Joshua rematch ducker Wlad is as butthurt as you are lmao. I hope so.

 

And water is wet. That's always been true.

But stating that doesn't mean the outcome for this poll is wrong. It's clear from your OP what choice you thought s/be #1.
In other words, just because you don't like the way the poll is going doesn't make the results invalid. Perhaps Usyk's and Fury's votes contain about the same percent of dumbasses. It's very likely that Fury is carrying the smart person AND dumbass vote

 

Fury over Wilder. People won't admit it but let's be real, Wilder was the most frightening HW since Tyson. When Fury slayed that dragon, all the little boys and girls could rest easy again.

 

Ustinov who got badly beaten by Pulev? I love that "ducking story". Tell me more about the frightening Ustinov and his glorious career...

Wlad was 39, that's it. Weird, no one cares how Fury slept at the hospital for months before his third Wilder fight, because his newborn could have died. In 2015 he was with Hayden and claiming they were breaking up is a lie just to make Wlad look weaker, so Fury fought weaker Wlad who fought Pulev in 2014 and Jenning months before Fury (no Haydern problems then).

You insist Wlad was old, but you're crying for the rematch - good Fury didn't give him, he would've now been accused of fighting ancient Wlad. Plus, what's the point - Wlad won two rounds, how he could've done anything better in order to win?

How about AJ barely beating a 41-year-old Wlad?


@MismatchHypejob, I would usually tell you to hide somewhere, but please - tell me more, I see your potential.

 

Easily Ruiz completely derailing King Joshua who never the same after. It's like a slightly lower tier Douglas vs Tyson. Usyk beat an already ruined AJ. Wilder doesn't really have a great win and thus neither does Fury, so there's that.

Pretty obvious.

 

For me on a personal level, I think Fury's wins over both Klitschko & Wilder, and Ruiz's win over AJ outshines Usyk's wins over AJ.


For the simple reasons I never really fully expected Fury or Ruiz, at the time, to pull it off . Where as with Usyk's fights with AJ I confidently expected him too....

 

Why not?

 

I'd say Usyk over Joshua. He beat him comfortably twice, and AJ is a better opponent than 40 year old Wlad, who Fury ducked in the the rematch.

 

Ruiz was the one who turned Aj into a gunshy coward. Not Uysk. He also defeated aj when he was undefeated and knocked him out

It was also a massive upset

 

Fury over Wlad clearly. Ruiz had already taken Joshua's soul.

Anyone saying otherwise is being disengenous or just really hates Fury. It's not close.

 

Wlad showed serious degradation against Jennings you are talking a lot of rubbish no 39 year old is remotely in their prime no matter the sport.

 

Oooohh... You are talking bigger rubbish. So I admit - you win. God bless!