Poll: Who should Usyk fight next: Parker, Kabayel or Dubois?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Feb 23, 2025.


Who should Usyk fight next?

This poll will close on Jun 2, 2025 at 9:50 AM.
  1. Joseph Parker

    63.9%
  2. Agit Kabayel

    20.2%
  3. Daniel Dubois

    16.0%
  4. Someone else - mention the name with a post

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. OddR

    OddR Active Member Full Member

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    Fair take.

    I think Uysk is still going to win his last 2 fights anyway. I think even at his age it will take quite a effort to stop him.
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm surprised most of you guys have him as the Goat, but it's your opinions. Maybe he is better than Ali, Duran, Leonard, pacquiao etc with his insane resume of ranked wins
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People overrating Usyk is just going to make the next dominant champ even greater. Imagine if someone like Usyk dominated heavyweight his whole career? That would be an even bigger feat and it is going to happen soon
     
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  4. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo yes, but it appears this forum believes he really is greater than Ali, who cleared his division in 2 seperate decades, while being robbed of his best years

    Opinions vary

    He's very good of course, but not the best I've seen.
     
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  5. OddR

    OddR Active Member Full Member

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    That means another 10 year plus heavyweight champ.
     
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  6. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would like it to be Kabayel just because it will be someone else for a change then the usual Joshua, Usyk, Fury, Wilder, Dubois clique. Half of these guys are on their way out already anyways.

    Also it happens a lot: A fighter works himself into that Top 3 - 7 position and then his career stalls out and he never gets a title shot. And they spend their best years on the shelf.

    Whyte, Joyce, Zhang, are all examples of fighters who reasonably should have had a title shot or way earlier then they did. I don’t want Kabayel to end up like them.

    I like Parker and he deserves a title shot as well. But he has been Champion already. I am not hating it if it would be him who fights for the title though.
     
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  7. dcarlota

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    He should first fight Dubois to unite the titles once more and then fight Parker and Kabayel.
     
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  8. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    It's a combination of recency bias (which has a little merit, truth told) and unbeaten bias, I think.

    We all know fighters get overrated when they're unbeaten, sometimes to a ridiculous extent.

    Usyks excellent, well into the upper reaches of history... So is Ali, but the losses make him human in a way that Usyk can evade by not having been beaten (yet, and he might well retire that way).

    On recency, though... It's definitely true that sports science is much better these days, and that longer gaps between fights should (theoretically) mean that fully dedicated fighters like Usyk who live the life are able to perform at a level that past greats couldn't - the question is: does that make the modern fighters better?

    Or, for example, let's assume Usyk beats Ali H2H (and he might well do) - does that necessarily make him greater?
    I don't know...
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I have a solution. Dubois just had a full camp without fighting, J-Park just had a full camp and didn't even go 2 full rounds. Give them a couple of weeks rest and then reschedule their fight for 2-3 months max and the winner gets to fight the King a few months after for all the marbles. They could easily go again in 2 months. They're already in top shape right now.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Agit ''The Kurdish Slickness'' Kabayal on Usyk vs Belly 2 and Uysk's greatness

    ''The fight was very amazing. Usyk is very amazing fighter. He's very great. For me, he's the greatest HW of the last 25 years''

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  11. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agit must be a hater, why is Usyk only the greatest of the last 25 years? Is he trying to sat Lewis and others may be better? That is obviously blasphemy if he doesn't declare Usyk as the GOAT
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Simple. Usyk is the GOAT not quite the GOAT HW (yet) :lol:
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Here's another example of the Usyk disrespect

    I've seen god knows how many Crawford interviews where the interviewer has introduced him like this

    ''I'm here with the P4P king Terence Crawford''

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    And I mean even back when he was a three-weight champion and very probably when he was even a two-weight one too


    However, I only recall seeing one, maybe possibly two, Usyk interviews where they did the same with Usyk. Either way, it's infinitely rarer

    And you have to ask yourself why that is?

    Crawford's resume is weak for a top 5 P4P star. He's only fought outside his home country once in 41 fights, meaning all the world champions he's fought sans Burns and Spence had to bring their world titles to him, even when they were the champ and he was the contender, and fight him on a deck heavily stacked against them, always with a home ref and often with either 3 or 2 home judges.

    He's often been the much bigger or bigger man, rarely the smaller or very rarely much smaller, and extremely rarely if ever at all way smaller.

    He's never been at a reach disadvantage in any of his world title fights, let alone a big or huge one

    Has barely fought any legit punchers his size, let alone murderous punching ones bigger, much or way bigger

    Even though he's a four-weight champion when he's moved up through the weight classes he's still been the bigger man, was roughly fighting guys his size in his 3rd weight class, and he weighed slightly more than his career 154 opponent did in his 4th weight class with a way longer reach. Read that last bit again

    Usyk is fighting giants in a division he's tiny for, murderous punchers and legit banger again and again, with the deck stacked against him in their backyards or on the road.

    Crawford is an excellent fighter but if the roles were reversed they would still introduce Crawford as the P4P king and rarely if ever at all Usyk as the P4P king. 100% guaranteed
     
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  14. 81ZAR

    81ZAR Dr. Steelhammer Full Member

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    I'd like to see him vs Parker. Interesting matchup and Parker is deserving of that fight.

    It depends how long he sticks around for. I'd love to see him vs Parker, Dubois rematch, and his 3rd and final fight against Kabayel.
     
  15. MuffinTop

    MuffinTop New Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk will do anything in his power to avoid fighting Kayabel.

    You people will say but Usyk is a ATG heavyweight. Yeah because beating Chazz Witherspoon, barely beating a fade Chloe years after David Haye destroyed him, beating the overrated mentally damaged Joshua after Andy Ruiz beat him stupid, beating Dubois after Joyce broke his eye socket and Kevin Lerena almost knocked him out, and the beat a drugged out Fury who is so bad he almost got beat Francis Ngganou a MMA fighter with 0 pro bouts. Also the only thing Fury had done was barely beat a 40 year old Wlad Klitscko 10 years ago.

    There is no fan base more delusional or bias than Uysk fans.
     
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