Poll: Who won the 2nd round of the Frazier - Foreman 2 fight?

How so? :huh

 

Quit changing the subject. Why did you use Ali's weight as evidence he was out of shape when the weigh in was so many days prior to the fight? You lied. Now leave these boards like you said you would.

 

Here is my problem with you, you bring up a topic, ignore the rebuttal, then bring the topic up again.

 

You stated if anyone can show you lied you will leave these boards. You lied now leave as you said you would.

 

I didn't lie. I rebutted your argument. But you ignored it as well and bought this up again.

 

I think you revealed an interesting mental block regarding this fight. Patterson only managed to extend Liston in additional four seconds, only by beating a 10 count on a second knockdown. Frazier extended Foreman roughly 3 rounds and unlike Patterson actually implemented a stategic change that produced some success no matter how limited. Why are these two match ups stitched together?

Favorite? Hell no, never. Not what I proposed at all.

 

And you did lie as Ali's announced weight was meaningless to judge his condition. You knew this but you used this irrelevant point anyway to deceive. I have shown you lied now leave these boards immediately.

 

I don't believe there was ever any official score cards released. Some writers scored all Foreman, some scored one or two Frazier.

In your opinion he won no rounds, not mine.

Frazier was at the end of his rope, coming off Manila and at a pudgy career high. He visibly runs out of gas on camera. That's the whole point, Frazier had the right idea but was in a declined state and could not execute. What if..he was 205 pound prime Frazier using this approach?

 

I know my opinion is in the minority on this board, I don't care. I don't need a poll to convince myself I'm right, best mind your own posts and inability to judge landed punches.

 

No, it's not irrelevant at all. As this was FOUR days before the fight. At the very least, it's a great estimation of his weight

 

Yes that's a better description. Frazier extended Foreman. He made him work a bit harder for the inevitable stoppage.

There needs be no mental block. Foreman twice destroyed Frazier, he would always destroy Frazier as Liston would always destroy Patterson. The reason the two are stitched together as it is not feasible for anyone to watch the two series of fights and conclude anything but Liston and Foreman were the much better men.

 

I wouldn't go that far...

 

Is Foreman better against a wider field of opposition? Maybe.

Is Foreman better against the best man they both faced? No.

Is Foreman better in a straight up h2h matchup? Yes.

 

I wouldn't go as far to say Foreman and Liston beat Frazier and Patterson 1000 times out of 1000