Poll: Who won the 2nd round of the Frazier - Foreman 2 fight?

Just out of curiosity's sake, do you think if Frazier and Foreman fought 100 times, Frazier would win at least once?

 

Frazier could alter his style, contrary to popular belief. He did it a couple times. Even before '76. But to answer your question, Prime Frazier would have the legs to move better, better stamina, he'd throw more punches, he'd make Foreman miss more, he'd counter more, he hit harder, had faster hands. But the one thing, that sways my opinion is the fact that Frazier was only stopped after his contact lenses fell, in his prime, this wouldn't be a problem.

 

Liston proved he could knock out Patterson in round 1 twice over. It might be the most perfectly duplicated win in history.

The Foreman vs Frazier fights are not in The same ball park of certainty.

 

Again, I don't care if I'm in the minority on this forum. I would be worried if most agreed with me.

You still can't see for ****. I'm at least judging the round off what actually happened, not imagined Big uppercut and combos.

A lot of baseless assumptions there, you might as well assume I'm the pope.

You really give official judges weight? You argued pretty strongly Lewis beat Holyfield in the first fight. Be consistent. Either official score cards matter to you or they don't.

 

Yes they are.

In fact they are the perfect embodiment of certainty. 2-0 (2)

 

I don't think anyone beats anyone 1000 out of 1000 at that level.

 

No, boxing is not that simple. Face value wins are not applicable.

Charles was 2 and 0 against Walcott, not an ****ogy but a point of how stats are just that. What is the story beyond the results.

 

Surely you don't think Frazier would have won a trilogy fight?

Even you can't believe that.

 

I've discussed this with my brother. He says, if Frazier, and Foreman fought a series of fights at their respective primes, Joe would probably get bounced around the first fight and then do quite well in a rematch.

 

I agree 100 percent.

 

No.

But put a 25 year old Frazier against a 25 year old Foreman in a trilogy and I think Frazier could take one at the least.

Frazier was adaptable as seen in the Bonavena fights. He adapted against Foreman but was at the end of his career and physically couldn't implement his strategy
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The punishment and embarrassing nature of defeat renders a series of fantasy fights impossible.

 

If fight 1 and 2 see him get brutally knocked out, how can he still even be considered prime for fight 3?

It just isn't realistic what you propose.

He can adapt anything he wants but he can no adapt Foreman's power, style or his own durability. By the time he figures out a perfect strategy which involves a long shot, at best, he'll have had the prime beaten out of him.