Poll: Who won the 2nd round of the Frazier - Foreman 2 fight?

WTF are you talking about?

If a fighter throws punches, misses and gets countered, than yes, defense made a difference and the defensive fighter gets credit, not for the missed punch, but for the counter he landed.

If a ultra defensive fighter didn't throw a punch during a round, blocked 80% of them got hit with 20% of them, he still lost the round, simply because he landed less punches.

 

You if you want to criticize me for a punch you feel I counted and perhaps never landed, you're certainly going to get called on your ridiculous description of the round you provided.


Based on the post you wrote, which I originally thought was a blow by blow account of the whole round, you had Foreman landing maybe 2-3 jabs and maybe one power punch.

When I outlaid what I thought happened in that round, you largely agreed with it, and yet it was vastly different from what you originally wrote.

I was quite prepared to let this go, until you're repeated comment about my scoring a punch that was at least in your view, clearly a miss. (and maybe it was, I haven't watched it again) but if you want to criticize my account of the round, then I'm calling you on your absolutely ridiculous rendering of what you claim transpired.

Just so you're clear what I'm talking about here it is again.

8:47-Frazier gets caught by a Foreman jab while clowning
8:48-Foreman pushes Frazier back with an outstretched glove and a right hand appears to be blocked (if it landed it wasn't very clean)
8:49-Uppercut misses...by a god damn mile, follow up sweep misses.
8:50-Jab misses
8:51-Foreman throws a combo but every punch misses, however it does force Frazier to back into the ropes. He clearly wasn't knocked there by punches though, man. They are big slow swings, and you can clearly see them coming up short. This isn't slow motion microscope work.
8:55-Foreman's Jab/Uppercut/Hook combo is all slipped with Frazier on the ropes
8:55-Frazier lands a very clean counter left hook that momentarily stuns Foreman and forces him to reset. Great Power Punch.
8:57-Foreman jab misses.
8:58-Some Foreman paws that don't touch Frazier
9:01-They both miss
9:04-Foreman right hook lands
9:10-Foreman his Frazier's guard a few times, looking for openings
9:11-Big uppercut misses by a god damn mile
9:15-Foreman misses an ugly combo by a god damn mile.
9:16-Frazier with a clean left hook
9:20-9:30 Foreman taps at Frazier's guard and misses more jabs. Frazier gets off the ropes.
9:40-Foreman misses a swinging combo
9:46-Frazier jab lands
9:48-Foreman jab misses
9:51-Foreman jab misses
9:54-Foreman jab lands/right swing misses
9:58-Frazier left hook glances, Foreman rolled with it
10:14-Foreman hooks at Frazier's guard (possible one got the body)
10:16-Foreman jab/hook combo misses
10:18-Frazier hook lands behind the ear
10:19-Lunging jab hits Foreman's eye as tries to pull away
10:31-Frazier jab lands, eye catching punch
10:33-Foreman misses
10:35-Foreman misses an arm wreary combo
10:43-Foreman hits below the belt, hip
10:47-Foreman misses some arm punches
10:48-Left Hook rocks Foreman back momentarily
10:52-appear to trade jabs

Now if I count this, I get exactly one jab landing by Foreman, (I incorrectly said none the first time, my error) and maybe 2 Foreman power shots. If you get a different punch count, let me know.

Obviously this is vastly different from the majority of posters who watched this round, as well as your own critique of my account of the round.

Reconcile this for me, please.