Poll: Who won the 2nd round of the Frazier - Foreman 2 fight?

Your delusional mind calls it a "mistake". To everyone else it's an obvious lie.

 

Don't change the subject? Go find some of my lies. If you can find any, I will leave never to return.

 

And a bad conclusion is a bad conclusion.

That is a very good example of a bad ****ogy. If you're benchmark of foolishness is how Foreman looked in beating Frazier a second time, I honestly see no point in continuing this debate as we are no where near any middle ground.

Frazier looked better against Foreman in the rematch, he had bulked up so he could compete strength wise and he has a strategy based around avoiding exchanges. But looking better is not the same as looking good enough to be a favourite.

 

You stated Ali was out of shape citing his weight as evidence.

Lie.

Now go away and never come back.

 

Ali WAS out of shape. Once again: "The mood of the two fighters and their camps could not be further apart. In Ali's camp, the mood was jovial and lighthearted. According to Ali's longtime physician and cornerman Ferdie Pacheco, it was believed by Ali and his trainers that Frazier was washed up after his devastating loss to George Foreman and the relative ease with which Ali had defeated Frazier in their rematch. The general consensus was that Ali was doing Frazier a favor, giving Joe one last big payday before sending him off into retirement. As a result, Ali did little training, instead concentrating on the torrid affair he was having with Veronica Porche and amusing the vast entourage that had come to be nicknamed the "Ali Circus". Later, when Ali's wife Belinda found out that Ali was not only carrying on this affair but was introducing Veronica as his wife, she flew to the Philippines and confronted Ali, causing yet another distraction."

 

One more time re****....

You stated Ali was out of shape and cited his weight as evidence. Ali weighed in many days before the fight occurred. Why did you try to deceive everyone that Ali's weight was evidence that he was out of shape?

 

So, you're gonna ignore my previous reply?

 

Tell everyone why you used Ali's WEIGHT as evidence that Ali was out of shape? Don't one again change the subject. Answer my question. You lied now get off these boards as you said you would.

 

We disagree ,I don't think he won any rounds and I believe the judges agreed with me.
Frazier danced around selconsciouly ,trying to make George expend energy. HE was winning NOTHING!

You say Frazier only got caught as he gassed? Four rounds!
I thought Foreman was supposed to be the one with suspect stamina?

 

I didn't lie about anything. It's you who's changing the subject. But to answer your question, I used Ali's weight as evidence that he was out of shape because he came in at the fourth highest of his career.

Now stop ducking my question.

 

This wasn't the limitless stamina, Smokin' Joe of before.

 

I find your posts on this thread unconvincing, and that is being polite!

 

He did NOT come into the ring at that weight. Again hwt fighters lose on average 5-8 pounds the last days before a fight. So by you using Ali's weight as evidence that he was out of shape is a lie. Leave this board as you stated you would.