Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, May 15, 2019.
Wheres Jimmy Young ?
Foreman has the undeniable stylistical advantage imo, he has far more power, like different stratospheres. Dempsey comes forward with his head low leaving him open to an uppercut like Frazier, Moore would notice this and tell Foreman to land it, and I think he would then Finish Dempsey like he did Frazier.
Foreman TKO 2/3
Marciano has his head taken off. He'd come forward and throw his Susie Q's and Gazelle hooks but I'd be willing to put money that Foreman could take them for as long as it would take him to KO Rocky. I think that Foreman just lands a hard series of punches, hurts him and then puts him away whilst Marciano is arguing with the ref about why he can continue.
Foreman TKO 3/4
Good fight, I'd pick Foreman based in his chin and I think he has slightly more power, but Liston had a much better punch structure and selection so he may get more pop in his shots. But if they traded, and let's be honest they would, I'd pick Foreman to KO him but see the canvas himself
Foreman KO 5/6
I think 60s Ali embarrasses Foreman and makes him gas after being pissed off for 12 or so rounds then gets pressured enough to force a standing stoppage (with a modern ref), or Ali just bamboozles him until the final Bell
Ali UD 15
Holmes would outbox him until he was caught. His jab would be his undoing imo, Foreman parryed and countered Jabs brilliantly and he'd do it enough to hurt and Finish Holmes at some point.
Foreman TKO 3/4
Brilliant fight while it lasts, but it ends similarly to Dempsey, I think Foreman would get Blasted to the body and head but take it and land a huge hook on Tyson then beat him into submission
Foreman TKO 2/3
I'd pick Lewis to use his size and skill to keep Foreman away and use his Power to land heavy on him whenever he got too close. I think Manny would have Lewis jab a lot, step back and let of rights to hurt foreman enough to get away from him, I think Lewis could do this over 12
Lewis UD 12
He tried to do what Lewis does, and mostly does but eventually gets caught as he doesn't have Lewis's composure.
Foreman KO 5/6
Slugfest where Vitali's 'Iron Chin' is dented, permanently. Foreman would land on Vitali and hurt him like Sanders did and then finish him. I think that Vital would build up a good lead with his Jab and movement before Foreman catches him real hard then forces Vitali to trade.
Foreman KO 4/5
Obviously Ali because he beat Foreman, but I'd lean toward George in a rematch. Larry Holmes, Lewis and Vitali all have the skills to decision him or stop him late.
Ali showed how.
Dempsey could float like Ali , and he could crack. He gets to Foreman first and takes him out.
Vitali K was just as tough and strong, but bigger still. Foreman had more natural talent. This fight would be awesome, but I favor Vit K . In a middle of the floor slug fest. Neither man can back up.
Holmes is a 50/50
Joe Louis to me is overrated, but he actually is a good match up against George. Should be on list! 50/50
Lewis / Wlad get caught and stay down
Marciano is a really good match, and I actually like the " rocks" chances, I am close to giving him the edge, but just cant quite give it the go ahead.
Max Baer is another great match not on this list. 50/50
Foreman was a monster, but could be beaten by crafty fighters.
Max Baer is a 50/50 fight with a peak Foreman... Yeah sure buddy.
I don't think anyone is knocking out Mike Tyson in under 3 rounds. Not even big George.
I didn't think anyone was expecting Frazier to get KOed in 2 tbf
Tyson is an amped up Frazier times 5. He aint running to Foreman in a straight line with his chin sticking out. Foreman will be facing someone rivaling his own power with multiple weapons in his arsenal, speed, a chin and defensive skills to boot.
I think Foreman is being a little overrated here. He does well against the guys who come to him, but guys who could move and use a jab and give angles and pick shots he had trouble with. That is the simplistic way to explain it.
I think prime Wlad, with the footwork and form he got under Manny, makes the easiest night of Foreman of any here.
Then Tyson would have to learn how to stick and move (yeah right LOL!), because all Mike does is come forward fast. It would be like taking candy from a baby for George.
Look how often Mike got hit by Ruddock...Ruddock ain't got NOTHIN' on George baby. All it takes is one shot, and Mike never had a granite chin (it certainly wasn't glass, but Buster Douglass and Evander Holyfield...they weren't George either, baby.)
In terms of sheer clobbering power, only Shavers usurped George...though I'll admit, Earnie would have had to get a lucky punch in early against Mike, because ES really didn't have a great chin.
Ali ( it was proven) , possibly Holmes (but he was susceptible to big right hands, Forrman had a HUGH right hand,) L.Lewis, ( Bigger man, good jab, strong right hand, but he was also susceptible to right hands) prime vs prime, I see no one but Ali... Foreman was probably the strongest Heavy in history as far as brute strength is concerned. Gene Tunney, a C.Byrd, J.Young, probably give him a harder fight, than most Heavyweights that are considered " great" because of their style.
Ali , Liston, and Holmes for me … Holmes would have to fight his best fight ever and control with jab,,, I think he does … How could you not want to see Prime Foreman vs Prime Liston … Someone is getting KTFO
Just imagine, War of the Pole-Axe Jabs! Not much boxing... Liston hit harder than Lyle so we'd be sure to see George take at least a count. Foreman would get him though, soon as Sonny thinks he's got him measured BLAM! Would be one of the greatest slugfests.