Pongsaklek Wonjongkam loses against Daisuke Naito?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by doublesuited, Jul 18, 2007.


  1. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    Pong KO'd this guy in 30 secs the first time, brutalized him to the point where the fight had to be stopped the second time, and Naito finally survives for 12 and gets a points victory. This smells like a major robery.

    BTW, stop hating on Pong. This guy's the employee, and he does what management and promoters wants him to do. Also, he was paid crazy cheddar to take this third fight. Over 100k USA at least, and that's a lot of change in Thai Baht.
     
  2. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that " I just do what my promoter wants" excuse can only take you so far . . . he used it up a LOOOONG time ago.
     
  3. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    Say what you want, but that's the type of situation that he's in. It's not like promoters from other camps are going directly to Pong to make offers. Offers and negotiations are directed towards his management team.

    Like he said in his interview, his only job is to train and fight.
     
  4. Luzon

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    Finally the guy gets beat. I think its just Pong who was ducking and reluctant to leave his back yard. I think Thais are down ass fighters and would fight anywhere. I've seen alot of Thai boxers on American t.v. fight in the U.S.. I think its the Korean and Japanese fighters that are reluctant to fight outside their yards. Except for Chi, I have never seen a Korean or Jap fighter fight outside of youtube not in their home turf. The thing is it is hard for an outsider to win in these countries even though it is lopsided beating of the hometown guy. Remember Roy Jones in the Olympics in Korea. In front of the entire world the judge was able to make his decision. Imagine what happens when nobody really notices. Thats how nasty it really is. I think they know they'd get beat if they step out their door.
     
  5. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    dont you guys see a trend here,

    first it was Arce, then Darchiniyan now Wonjongkam.
     
  6. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    blah blah blah, at some point a fighter has to stand up to his manger. . . he failed to do so and now he got what he deserved.

    Its a good day for boxing when a ducker loses.
     
  7. Luzon

    Luzon Member Full Member

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    Whos next? ....Katsidis, Solis, De Leon, Gonzales. hehehe, wishful thinking.
     
  8. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    Exposed by a guy he defeated with ease twice. :patsch
     
  9. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that makes it all the more sad.
     
  10. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    What I"m saying is...How the hell is this a definition of being exposed.

    This situation is more a definition of "Suspicion". How the **** do you go from whooping a guy's ass 2 times(not just winning close decisions), but ass whoopings to losing the third fight cuz the guy survived all 12 rounds and the fight was in his homeland?

    That's all I'll say for now, and maybe my mind will change after seeing the fight.

    I've seen a few of Pong's fights, and despite what any of you say, he's a great boxer. Has excellent skill, power, and quickness. He's an aggressive fighter, and has excellent defense and countering ability even while moving in.

    This all reminds me of what happened to JMM in Indonesia. Close fight, and it goes to the hometown boy.

    :patsch
     
  11. Luzon

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    My question is why would you fight a dude you already whooped on twice rather than fighting somebody "more worthy"?
     
  12. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he may be all those things, I dont know. . . but one thing I do know is that he's a ducker and thats the last thing the sport needs is another ducker. . .I hope he never get a meaningful fight . . . . cause he never wanted to make one when he held the belt. So good riddance.
     
  13. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly, but, like he said in his interview that was posted in an article here(can't find it right now), the deal for a third fight with Naito was very lucrative for him. So, I can't blame him for taking the fight.
     
  14. psychopath

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    This guy is over :D :D :D . . . now he can fight inside his country until he retires for all I care.:yep
     
  15. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    Scott Mallon: Let’s move on to Vic Darchinyan. He has publicly stated he doubts your willingness to fight him. His promoter, Gary Shaw, has also stated that a $250,000 purse is not a problem and if you’re truly sincere about willing to fight his man, your promoter knows his phone number and can easily get in touch with him. Do you think a fight with Vic Darchinyan will ever happen?

    Pongsaklek Wonjongkam: I would like to fight him but this is for my manager and promoter to decide. Boxing is a business and it’s much easier for me to fight in Japan than America. Television rights, options, travel, money - I’m a fighter and my job is to train, to fight and to win. My promoter’s job is to take care of the business side of boxing.

    Scott Mallon: Can’t you tell your promoter you want to make the fight though?

    Pongsaklek Wonjongkam: Like I said, this is my promoter’s job, not mine. I would like to prove myself to the fans in America and I’m sure a fight between Darchinyan and me would be exciting. The promoter is my boss though and like I said, he handles the business of my career. I’ll fight anyone he tells me to.

    (It should be noted that in Thai culture, the fighter has little to no say in deciding who he fights. In most cases there are no written contracts between the fighter and his promoter and fighters rarely challenge their promoters’ and managers’ business practices. A fighter calling his own shots is a foreign concept to Thai fighters. Instead, they view themselves as an employee and the promoter as their boss.