Poor Ruslan Chagaev

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  1. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    i truly was putting on the pom poms for ruslan, but to see the outcome of the fight was sickening. i did not expect him to win but i was hoping that he would have put up more of a fight than he did. he just stood there right in front of wlad and let him tee off. i blame it on his trainers as well as himself not being smart enough to move to his right. there was a couple of times that he did very briefly during the fight and disrupted wlad's attack. he seemed like he broke wlad's defenses when he did this. if ruslan steps to the right it would for one moved him out of the way of wlad's right hand and 2 would've allowed ruslan to throw right hooks to the body and head of wlad and making wlad adjust. ruslan then would maybe be able to work in the left hand. that was the best hope for ruslan to even have a chance. although the height and reach differentials made it look like little mac vs. mike tyson. the jab proved extremly effective for wlad and probably could have beat ruslan with his left hand by itself. the punch totals were lopsided im sure. the only thing i saw good for ruslan is that he allowed himself not to be knocked out but at the same time i don't think wlad had any intention to do so anyway. i think wlad was going to be happy coasting to a unanimous dec.
     
    kolcade4, Jun 22, 2009
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  2. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he only had a week to prepare, give him a break.
     
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  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He looked terrible.
     
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  4. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    still a bad showing of a reigning champ and i think he had well more than a week.
     
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  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    chagaev proved what a joke he was ...i mean, if thats the best you can do.....you better stick to fighting Valeuv and Ruiz
     
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  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    WTF? He was training and was suppose to fight Valuev . . . so your 2 weeks excuse is bullcrap.
     
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  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Not too late . . . why don't he call out Haye. :yep
     
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  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    no he trained 12 weeks for Valeuv...not for Wlad.... :rofl:rofl

    i agree...no excuses...the guy got owned and embarrassed. thats what happens when you actually fight someone that is good in todays heavyweight division if you are Chagev.
     
    iceman71, Jun 22, 2009
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  9. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    i was really puuling for chagaev too. i can't stand the klit**** brothers, i do not think that wlad won because he was just that good. wlad won because ruslan was just that bad. i saw another thread floating around here about ruslan making top 5 lists. im not sure about yall but there just aint no way. wlad doesnt even make a top 5 list. todays crop of heavys just are not that impressive.
     
    kolcade4, Jun 22, 2009
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  10. they_killed_kenny

    they_killed_kenny Underdogs on top :) Full Member

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    Wasnt he in training camp for Valuev anyways?,
     
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  11. Leprikawn7

    Leprikawn7 Active Member Full Member

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    if your going to bill yourself as the "white Tyson" then after you bob and weave THROW A FRIGGIN PUNCH!
     
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  12. TheStink

    TheStink New Member Full Member

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    He could have bat least attempted some haymakers. I Wlad is caught he can be brought down. How many preformance.
     
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  13. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    He used more head movement then most of Wlad's opponents that I can recall. Not as much as he should have, but more than most.

    When he was on the outside, he tried to use head movement to avoid the jab and the right.

    He tried to duck and bob and weave his way inside, and failed. He tried to duck and lunge in with a punch but didn't have the speed or accuracy.

    I look at fighters like Tyson or Frazier, who could duck and weave and then lunge forward with a devastating and accurate punch. If Chag had even this extra asset in his toolset then the fight would have been less one-sided.

    I don't agree that he just stood like a punching bag. He tried to be evasive, and failed. He tried to move in and failed. He should have tired more often, but the end result would have been the same. He did become a bit of a punching bag later in the fight - when he already knew that he had failed.
     
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  14. Leprikawn7

    Leprikawn7 Active Member Full Member

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    I thought it was pretty obvious he didnt even try moving to his right. If he could have moved to his right, ducked under a jab, he could have landed a right hook to the body and then went upstairs with the left.

    It seems when people get in from of the brothers they get hypnotized and cant move!
     
    Leprikawn7, Jun 22, 2009
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  15. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    i didnt say anything about him not bob and weaving he did plenty of that in fact he did so much of it he looked a bit confused on what to to do next. im talking about actually steping to the right and keep steping that way. therefore giving himself a shot at actually creating oppurtunities for himself. not only that ;ruslan actually moving his entire body to the right forces wlad to cut the ring off changing the fight altogether .
     
    kolcade4, Jun 22, 2009
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