Positive news about the heavyweight division...its getting younger!

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think on this:

    IN GUYS
    Joe Parker- 31
    Daniel Dubois- 26
    Agit Kabeyel- 31
    Filip Hrgovic- 31
    Jared Anderson- 24
    Efe Ejagba- 29
    Kevin Lerena- 31
    Martin Bakole- 30
    Frank Sanchez- 31
    Reyad Merhy- 31

    Out Guys
    Deontay Wilder- 38
    Joe Joyce- 39
    Arslanbek Makhmudov- 34
    Otto Wallin- 33
    Jarell Miller- 35

    Of course, we still have the division dominated by Usyk, Fury and Joshua, who are not spring chickens....and then there is Zhang. But overall, the young guns are starting to push the old heads out.
     
  2. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the new generation is going to flush out the old generation very soon.
     
  3. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Gurgen Hovhannisyan fighting next week.
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dunno we still have Zhang at 40 years old hanging in there and after Parker's performance Joyce at 38 isn't looking so washed up. If the Juggernaut can get a few quick wins be might be back in contention again.

    But yeah it's inevitable that the new gen eventually push out the old ones, question is when will that be? Are the new Gen good enough or will we still have the old veterans hanging on a little longer because the next gen are not good enough.
     
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  5. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Justis Huni is 24 and will be a factor if he can find a little bit more power.

    The guy is a beautiful boxer.
     
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  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s a cycle
     
  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, Joyce isn't that bad. I think it's a classic case of styles making fights, his matchmakers walked him into a highly unfavourable match against Zhang and paid the price. They probably presumed he could weather Zhang's power and drown him late but Zhang was both too accurate and powerful so what might have happened late was irrelevant, the most relevant thing was Joyce's lack of defence.

    By contrast I think Parker was a good match up for Joyce (not enough power / committed aggression to stop him and Joyce's superior stamina and volume won the day). I feel Parker would do better vs Zhang though, he's a lot more responsible defensively and may well avoid the early KO. If he takes Zhang late, Zhang will be gassed and struggling, even if he's won the early rounds.[/QUOTE]
     
  8. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe is 38 and 3 mos. But certainly he's no longer a climber in the division.
     
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  9. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calling these two "IN GUYS" is a stretch.

    I think "Justis Huni - 24" would be a better entry, though I don't think Huni is ever going to hoist a major belt.
     
  10. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, and it's timing operates around when a small number of promoters decide their fighter is cashed.
     
  11. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can't 100% rule it out - but being stopped twice in succession is not a good look.

    I Joyce is more of a stepping stone now. He can get good money fighting Fabio Wardley or Frazier Clarke or maybe rematching DuBois. But he's not a climber.

    I have heard that Zhang is 18 months younger than he's listed (b/c Chinese officials were trying to sneak him into AIBA tournaments to prepare him for the 2008 Beijing Olympics). But this is unconfirmed. But Zhang's overall health is not good. He has calcium deposits on his heels and you can only treat those with cortisone shots and those do not work indefinitely. Hard to tell what version of Zhang will show up.
     
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  12. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This guy is a big sleeper (kind of like Kossobuitsky was a few years ago). He's already been ducked by Viktor Faust.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Merhy, maybe. Lerena has amassed some good wins, and also seems to have political backing.
     
  14. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lerena does have some decent wins in there (Merhy is one of them) and gave DuBois a scare. Seems like he will get another chance to step up. But it doesn't look like he's in the mix for the big fights in the UK, Saudi Arabia and the USA at this time - so I don't think he's "IN" at the moment.
     
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