Post little signs you notice that MMA is slowly beginning to replace boxing.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Haggis McJackass, Dec 13, 2011.


  1. HeavyT

    HeavyT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im the same but pretty much the only guys i know over 21 who like UFC are guys who train martial arts, i hear more talk of Khan and Fury than talk of Bisping or Hardy. Also, Ive heard teens at college saying ridiculous **** like "Aye, UFC is buyin MMA" :lol:
     
  2. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Platonic, female friends who don't miss PPVs

    Brown Pride shirts at the gym

    I see this one guy, about my age, doing MT in the mirror all the time. I told him he should fight, but he won't. It's funny. His nose is obviously broken, twice, with two ribs and a seperated shoulder.

    There were some local fights this weekend, I almost went.. $15 a piece.
     
  3. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    gotta lay off the NyQuil I guess......lol
     
  4. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I couldn't find a place(sports bars or anything) that was showing Cotto vs Margarito fight.
     
  5. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why MMA has taken over the Combat Sports arena as the primier combat sport is quite a simple one, actually.

    Boxing, for the last 50+ years has always been able to claim, justly or not (and I'd say the latter), that the Heavyweight Champion was the, "Toughest Man in the World." That was always in contention by other martial arts stylists but nothing ever really came of it (at the very least, not quite as publicaly) until UFC 1 in November of 1993. That effectively started the conversation over with some real concrete evidence to show that there is something else out there to fighting within combat sports and boxing doesn't seem to get the job done by itself when we allow for all these other styles.

    Grappling oriented styles dominated. Then cross-training happened, which Bruce Lee is generally considered the patriarch of multi-discipline training, and ta-da, here we are today with modern MMA, where the champions in each division are extremely well rounded and have exceptional all-around skills.

    MMA now has the claim of, "The toughest guy(s) on the planet," and if you want to challenge this, then everyone is welcome to try and bring their individual style to the table, but it inevitably fails unless they adapt to learning other styles to augment their abilities, and the moment they do that, they're Mixed Martial Artists. That's the whole point, "Come at me with anything ya got, I'll either defend it or make it so you can't do what you want to do and submit/(T)KO you." It's having all the tools are your disposal and being prepared to fight in a variety of situations where almost all traditional martial artists and boxers simply can not. Mixed Martial Artists can.
     
  6. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    :good

    Quite a lot of truth to that.

    But the most important thing is that fans are important in MMA. Bob Arum and co don't give a **** about the fans. Dana White does.

    :hat
     
  7. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It ain't gonna replace boxing but MMA will now be here to stay. The signs that made it seems like MMA is here to stay is now you can actually see MMA in sports pages in the internet.

    If you go to yahoo sports or ESPN.com, you will see an MMA section which wasn't there couple of years ago.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Do you really think that's part of the appeal? I can definitely see hardcore fans of combat in general having this element to their mentality, but in general, I don't think that "baddest guy on the planet" deal was ever crucial to boxing's popularity at all.
     
  9. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    i agree the notion that being the baddest man on the planet will serve mma more participants is bollox, in this day and age the baddest man on the planet dont exist, the baddest man on the planet is the one who lives across the road with a gun and will blow your head off if you touch him, id like to think people take up boxing or mma to be good at the sport not to batter people at every opportunity
     
  10. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MMA will never replace boxing, the best MMA fighters only make a fraction of what top boxers make. Too much history and tradition for a gay ass sport that is mainly for white boys to overtake boxing. Plus Dana White is worst than Don king he's keeping MMA down.

    :hat
     
  11. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely. Now if you had said, "Do you really think that it's the only appeal," then I would have to say no. But boxing was continuously able to claim that the heavyweight champ was the "Toughest Man in the World," (or substitute, "toughest," for, "Baddest," or whatever) and that was absolutely part of the appeal. "Come see the Heavyweight Champ fight, he's the toughest man in the world." And they could claim this because they would always have their arena where they would fight; in the boxing ring, under boxing rules and obviously the boxer is going to win so their claim was in no real danger of being disproven. But, let's grant for a second that boxing promoters never uttered those words... it was, without a shadow of a doubt, uttered by a not insignificant number of the fanbase, thus giving the claim clout, even if just in their minds.

    Now you don't even need to look beyond this website to see people claiming boxing to be the most effective means of combat (at least with respect to combative athletics), and that has just been shown to be an utter nonsense of a statement. That was replaced, inevitably, with the best individual style of combat (again, with respect to combative athletics or combat sports, at least) was Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. But does it get better than BJJ? Well, people who had styles not grounded in BJJ studied it and then we get cross-training and the moment that happens you have Mixed Martial Arts and MMA. This all ties into some of what I've said above and rather than repeat myself ad nauseum I'll simply defer to that. The general idea of what I'm going for is there.

    Doubtful any MMA Champion is going to genuinely think of himself as the, "Baddest Man on the Planet," because that would probably be reserved for some Navy SEAL or some other supremely trained member of Special Forces of some kind (be it U.S., or British, whatever), but within the context of combative athletics (ugh, the ad nauseum) they are, without question, the most likely to win a fight because of the very nature of what they're doing.
     
  12. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except pro-wrestling for most of boxing history was marketed far more seriously than it was now and many believed the wrestlers to be legit (not necessarily that the sport was legit just that the wrestlers themselves were). So at various points people like Lou Thesz or Jack Brisco were revered as legitimate tough guys, on a par with any boxer.

    Boxing has problems because of boxing. Its nothing to do with MMA.
     
  13. sonyt

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    I've never heard "baddest man on the planet" thing used.
    always think it's Tyson nickname.
    and i been watching old fights.
     
  14. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Two things for me:

    1. Saying "MMA" or "UFC" to 40 year old coworkers and they actually know what it is.

    2. The fact that Joel Edgerton, Tom Hardy and Nick nolte starred in a highly reviewed film concering the sport; it was taken serious, not as a gimmick, and seemed "accepted" without reviewers blasting it for being violent/barbaric etc. The fact that a high end set of actors/studios etc felt the need/had the confidence to create the film speaks volumes about where the sport is standing in the public eye.
     
  15. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So the baddest man on the planet was that guy that got knocked out by some wide ass garbage punch that shattered his glass chin?

    The same types of punches that Pac and Marquez were landing on eachother ALL night.

    That's the baddest man on the planet?