Post-Prison Tyson vs Jersey Joe Walcott

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  1. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't see him stopping Tyson, maybe out boxing him after surviving an early onslaught. Tyson lost most of his best attributes after Prison.
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Best version of Tyson after prison, was in the Holyfield fight.

    Question is, is JJW as good as a 34 year old Holyfield?

    Also Holyfield trained day and night, and was obsessed about beating Tyson. He studied Mike down to a T.
    Replace Holyfield with someone else and it may have been a different outcome.

    Also take into consideration the fight was competitive for about 5 rounds and Tysons best rounds were 5 and beginning of 6, until Holyfield pulled out the head and then the KD.

    I pick Tyson to smash Walcott, but Walcott would make Mike look foolish sometimes.

    Depends if JJW can weather the storm like Holyfield did
     
  3. janitor

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    I think that Walcott would school him to be honest.

    Tyson at this stage had abandoned all the atributes that I would see as most crucial to his winning this fight. Most crucialy those relating to his previous finishing ability. If he goes out there trying to head hunt Walcott, he is just going to get his own head handed to him.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    No way is Walcott's chin standing up to Tyson for 12-15 rounds, as soon as Tyson catches him it would be over and he would catch him, maybe in the first round
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I pick Walcott in this one. Joe would be more than capable to take extend Tyson,and Mike no longer had the will for long,gruelling fights. Walcott would outsmart,outbox and outpunch Tyson.
    The prime Tyson would be favoured over Joe.
     
  6. janitor

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    Walcott is a lot more durable than you are allowing for.

    He fought a whole shed load of punchers, including some of the best of all time. If Tysons only plan is to try to land one big punch then he might as well surrender at the press conference.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    No he isn't he was knocked out by Marciano, Simon and Louis and often had low hands. Tyson would land allot easier than those 3 because he has faster hands and feet and he probably hits harder than all. Tyson also usually gave up massive amounts of height/reach - not so much the case here. Joe's also smaller, weaker and wouldn't be able to make Tyson give up ground. Walcott isn't taking the punches Holyfield took

    Tyson nuthuggers making out he was shot to excuse the loss make people underrate post-prison Tyson, he was still 1 of the best HWs ever in 96
     
  8. janitor

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  9. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    Walcott took heavy fast blazing bombs off Joe Louis, not to mention evaded a lot of them. Louis had very comparable power and handspeed to Mike Tyson.


    1996 Tyson was no better than a 1947 Louis
     
  10. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Walcott was nowhere near his prime when he was knocked out by Simon. Simon also knocked Walcott out due to exhaustion, not from Simon's power.


    Marciano and Louis are ATG punchers, no harm there. Walcott fought some hellacious punchers like Lee Q Murray, Elmer Ray, Hatchetman Sheppard, Tommy Gomez...I think Walcott has plenty of experience vs top punchers.


    This isn't the 1988 Mike Tyson, this is the 1996 Tyson.
     
  11. Azzer85

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    But you agree that Holyfield had the fight of his life in 1996? and if it wasnt for his granite chin, hed have been KTFO.

    Im not sure JJW can take that same kind of punishment
     
  12. janitor

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    I don't think he would have to.

    He would probably be elusive enough to stay away from this version of Tyson.

    Like people say, its not the Tyson of 88.
     
  13. Muchmoore

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    This is the bottom line. Holyfield was there to be hit in every part of his career but Tyson made his defense look a lot better than it was because he didn't set anything up and you could see everything coming.
    Mathis Jr. made Tyson look silly ffs :lol: What I'm picturing is a worse schooling than that but extending ten or so rounds before he batters an exhausted Tyson to the canvas.
     
  14. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Walcott would outbox Tyson to a fairly wide decision. First few rounds Tyson would be dangerous but after 5 Joe takes over, Mike was too predictable at this stage of his career and more easily fustrated. By the end Tyson would be falling for all of Walcott feints and eating heavy leather.
     
  15. SenorRamirez

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    Tyson eats walcot....sorry, but Tyson ist TOO STRONG AND TOO FAST