Post-War Ali vs. W. Klitschko

So?

Your point?

The dude should have retired after Manilla.

After that he was 'ordinary'


He was almost 39 and suffering a disability when he fought Holmes. You think he should have come back and rematched the guy?

Did Joe Louis avenge the Marciano defeat?

Did Tyson even avenge McBride?

 

Of course no-one can prove the outcome of hypothetical fights. That's part of the fun in speculating.

And if you don't give a ****, why are you posting on this topic?

 

CRACK HEAD!:smoke

 

I agree with you! But I think Ali would lose by UD!

 

Perfect Post :good

 

My point was that this was seen as one of Wlad's weaknesses.




Chill.

 

The losses to Purrity and Brewster were more stamina-related (nerves?) than because of the power of those two.

 

This is true.

Both had good power but neither were top-level hitters. And Wlad beat himself in both cases (Fighting weight's epistles notwithstanding).

 

That wasn't evident from your post nor from the context of the thread.

But you're right. Neither man did.

Ali avenged his first three. Wlad has avenged one and certainly could avenge the other two. If he doesn't, I don't think it hurts him as his detractors have already been proven wrong. They argued that Brewster had his number and that Wlad would fail psychologically in the rematch.

Taking nothing away from Lamon, but he was fortunate to get the first W.

 

Ali better fighter, Ali had 10 times more heart and chin than Wlad would dream of having. Ali could hit Wlad, and we all know it doesnt take much to put Wlad into panic attack mode. I think its an easy fight for Ali, he would make Wlad punch himself out by the mid rounds and would take him out around the 8th or 9th round.

 

Ali by brutal, brutal knockout. Easily.

 

Thanks !

 

What's that supposed to mean :huh

I can believe WALD beat himself V Purrity, no problem with that - David Haye made the same mistake against Carl Thompson...but he most certainly didn't beat himself V Brewster in that first fight, he got tagged and stopped whilst in a world of trouble. The Klit-ites just can't accept that a fighter can be dominating a fight and get sucker punched and lose, despite the fact that it's been happening since day 1 in this sport

Hell if Brewster had been fighting McCall then yeah I'd have suspected some kind of outside interference but WALD does not have the resistance of an Oliver McCall, so that has to be factored in.

As for WALD V Ali......I love the way that someone who had 37 KO's at the very highest level, in the hardest era the heavyweight division has ever known, is considered to not be a threat, power-wise. Underestimate Ali's ability to KO people at your peril, he could hit when he wanted to. I think pre-layoff Ali was something like 29-0 with 23 KO's, and he fought extremely good comp too.

Pre-layoff Ali would KO WALD inside of 8 rounds, and he wouldn't lose a round in the process. Ali from 1970-1975 still KO's WALD but might lose a couple of rounds in the process. After Manilla I'd pick a hell of a lot of heavies to beat Ali, WALD being one of them.

 

Not true. Some fighter's enter their "prime" later in their careers. Wladimir might not have reached his prime yet for all we know.

 

Maybe not, but he'd have to improve ridiculously to even be competitive with a prime Ali.