Post your ATG rankings

Erik Morales thats actually hilarious.

 

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Harry Greb
4.Muhammed Ali
5.Willie Pep
6.Bob Fitzsimmons
7.Roberto Duran
8.Jimmy Wilde
9.Archie Moore
10.Benny Leonard
11.Marvin Hagler
12.Sam Langford
13.Joe Gans
14.Sugar Ray Leonard
15.Carlos Monzon
16.Stanley Ketchel
17.Sandy Sadler
18.Larry Holmes
19.Kid Gavillan
20.Ted Kid Lewis

:deal

 

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Jack Johnson may seem like a curious choice but here is my rational. I am did not face much derision if any at all in the classic section, of which I am a regular, of this site.

Below is, My reason for Jack Johnson in the top ten over guys like Pep, Duran, etc.

IMO, Johnson was also the Greatest world champion, up until Joe Louis, reigning for 7 years. One top of that he was Colored champion from 1903 until he won the World title in 1908. I think Tommy Burns and Marvin Hart would not be in the Heavyweight Championship books if there was no color bar. Johnson maybe wins the title as early as 1905 from Jefferies which I would consider the true being of his prime and held it beating all the colored fighters and all of the white fighters like he did reguardless. He would have been the champion beating Langford, Jennette, and McVey and the rest of the white fighters he did beat defending the title 25 times and reigning for 12 years.

Essentially this is what did happen. I feel like one could make a claim that Johnson's total title reign is the greatest in boxing history including Joe Louis. His World title reign alone was better than all until Joe Louis and I would say he started his reign closing out his prime.

Thoughts?

 

Hagler at 11?

 

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Floyd might be in my top 40.

 

Hagler at 16,Duran at 12 ? Where is Sweet Pea ?

 

Hagler and Duran are great and I know that most people have them in thier top ten but, I see other fighters that accomplished more and would beat them outright.

Pernell? Top 35-40, maybe. Where would you put Pernell? I admire Pernell very much.

 

Top 25

 

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Joe Louis
5.Sugar Ray Leonard
6.Harry Greb
7.Benny Leanard
8.Roberto Duran
9.Willie Pep
10.Carlos Monzon
11.Eder Jofre
12.Ezzard Charles
13.Marvin Hagler
14.Mickey Walker
15.Thomas Hearns
16.Archie Moore
17.Sandy Saddler
18.Reuben Oliveres
19.Julio Cesar Chavez
20.Bob Fitzsimmons

 

1. Ray Robinson
2. Sam Langford
3. Harry Greb
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Roberto Duran
7. Willie Pep
8. Muhammad Ali
9. Benny Leonard
10. Mickey Walker
11. Archie Moore
12. Bob Fitzsimmons

After that, I'm not sure. SRL might be next, Whitaker would definitely be top 20, as would Floyd.

 

That's what I'm talking about Duran is top 10 and Money and Sweet P top 25

 

Mayweather's number #1

ODH #2
Cotto #3
Hatton #4
JMM #5
Canelo #6
SSM #7

So as you can see, Mayweather beat the best of the best, and that's a fact you Floyd haters can't dispute.

 

My thoughts are have you ever read the book "Unforgivable Blackness" ?

 

This is the list posted on the IBRO website. For those of you who are unfamiliar with this site, it's a site where boxing historian's gather historical and current information and
ask their members to vote on who the best boxers in various categories are. Naturally a fair amount of research is part of the selection process.

http://www.ibroresearch.com/



1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Muhammad Ali (Tie)
4. Joe Louis (Tie)
6. Sam Langford
7. Roberto Duran
8. Benny Leonard
9. Willie Pep
10. Bob Fitzsimmons
11. Joe Gans
12. Ezzard Charles (Tie)
12. Sugar Ray Leonard (Tie)
14. Jimmy Wilde
15. Eder Jofre
16. Mickey Walker
17. Archie Moore
18. Jack Dempsey
19. Jack Johnson
20. Gene Tunney

Just missing the cut: Stanley Ketchel, Barbados Joe Walcott, Rocky Marciano, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Ike Williams, George Dixon, Sandy Saddler, Roy Jones Jr., and Larry Holmes.

The major negative is that these lists are from 2006.

 

Thank you for the response...BTW, you would not happen to have your top 20-25 lying around would you. I checked around this thread and did not see it but, I did see you critiques.

Thanks.