Post Your Manny Pacquiao Vs Juan Manuel Marquez II Score Cards

"nobody cares my ass " but the one in the official book stands :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

who cares about the unofficial judges. :tired you'll go down in your grave bitching but the official result still stands :good


BTW the weight drained manny pacquiao took JMM to diving school 4 times
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excellent :good:good:good:good

 

114-113 marquez

 

the only way to score that fight a draw is pretty much to score an even round.

That poll shows that if those who had it a draw give Pacquiao that even round, the majority would have scored it as a win for Pac. In my eyes that shows that the fight could have gone either way, and therefore is not a robbery. IMO to claim corruption among the judges in this fight is borderline ******ed.

you claim that JMM was robbed of a win in a fight where less than half the fans had it scored for JMM. Anyways, I think that fans are **** at scoring fights. And often the more knowledgable they think they are, the worse they get. But still, that poll is pretty indicative of how close that fight was, and how it could have gone either way.

 

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No KD and they scored it 10-8? hmm, very bright.

so how should the pac haters here score round 1 of pac-jmm wherein jmm suffered 3 kd. :rofl

 

Have u watched round 8 of that fight? Pacquiao was totally dominated. Totally. He hit Marquez with two punches that werent clean. Marquez cut him, hurt him to the body and hit him flush with several combinations. Marquez had him backing up for the better part of the round. Pacquiao wasn't doing anything. He spent the round recovering. It could easily have been scored 10-8.

 

Although the scoring of a 10-8 round minus a knockdown is not discouraged by international boxing organizations and by state commissions, there seems to be a dearth of such scoring.

"I don't think they're scored enough," said Greg Sirb, executive director of the Pennsylvania State Athletic Commission and former head of the American Boxing Commissioners (ABC).

"I see more 10-10 rounds," added Sirb. I´m from the school that 10-10 rounds are allright. What I don't like to see is a 10-10 round followed by another 10-10 round. I don't like to see two or three in a fight. That tells me that a judge doesn't want to make a decision."

Sirb believes that in order to score a round 10-8 sans the knockdown, a fighter must be dominating. "And if the other guy does nothing he should be penalized."

Steve Farhood, Showtiine commentator and former Ring Editor, also feels there isn't enough 10-8 scoring when one fighter has clearly outmatched the other over the three- minute time frame.

"Too few in my opInion," said Farhood. "1'm for the liberal use of the 10-point must system. It's as if judges are hesitant to score that way. I think they need to be encouraged to be more liberal. if that's the case, we'll have fewer bad decisions."

 

i actually remember that round and true he got dominated. what makes it very funny and interesting is the other side of the fence.

true, that can very well be a 10-8 round. i will grant you that. however, pejevan and my query is how would you score that first round of pac-jmm.

there is what we call benchmarking in business parlance indio.

10-8 when in comes to jmm dominating pac with 5-6 power punches, if i remember it right.

but 10-7 when pac sent jmm 3x to the canvas, mauling him from pillar to pillar in rd 1 of pac-jmm 1. so you think that is fair? how should you have scored it then?

 

I didnt say it was fair and i dont think its fair. The judge obviously made a mistake. I would have scored that round 10-6. I dont understand why youre bringing that up though. Aren't we talking about their second bout? It was a close fight but in my humble opinion Marquez very clearly won.

 

i actually scored it as an an SD for JMM. it cannot not be a UD. there are close rounds which can go either way. then there are 3-4 rounds if i remember it right which are surely JMM. same with Pac but pac scored a KD in the 3rd and sent jmm almost tumbling down in the 10th which clearly affected judges scoring.

given that fight background, a 115-112 or even a 114-112 will not really be reflective of the real score.

 

also, it is good to compare it to the first fight as it is logical to benchmark performance. jmm fans would insist that round 8 of pac-jmm2 should be 10-8 while at the same time insisting that round 1 of pac-jmm1 should be 10-7.

as pejevan said, it should have been 10-5 imo. getting beaten from pillar to pillar and getting kd 3x is simply overwhelming.

 

You did what? :blood

 

let me rephrase that so that you will not be confused.

i am a known pac fan.

i watched the fight on ppv and before the decision was announced, i thought that it will be an SD since a UD seems to be an illogical decision for a seesawing fight.

hence, i was leaning for JMM to win via SD. hence, my statement that i scored the fight as an SD for JMM.

and true to my prediction, it was indeed an SD.

but it was an SD in favor of pac. :yep

 

115-112 Pac.

 

No you're wrong.....JMM had sizeable leads in every poll that I saw conducted in boxing forums like this.........

Sizeable.....which means Pacquiao should not have walked out of that ring holding the belts.