Post Your Manny Pacquiao Vs Juan Manuel Marquez II Score Cards

you are agreeing with a fellow pacteronlatino.. nothing unusual

 

Is ther a school that you go to altogether and learn nothing except to keep repeating this phrase - "JMM schooled Pac " - over and over agin. Of course they probably sell you some JMM googles as well.

I thought Pac fans are the worse because of their "no knowledge of Boxing, They can't score a fight, and will not listen to reason" etc, etc, etc. But I think JMM fans are more worse.

For one, they are the only one in this world who saw it as a schooling, with very lopsided margin of victory. This is done to bolster that JMM won so convincingly that had they made a judgment error in any round, JMM would have still won because the gap in their scorecards is so wide. When most Pac fan and Roach score it as very closed fight, that could have gone either way, then it becomes an evidence that JMM won (in Logic, it is called Argumentum ad non sequitor - meaning the conclusion does not follow the premise). Pacfans and Roach actually saw the fight as it is and not wearing one of the JMM GOOGLES that you could probably buy in the school I was inquiring.

Secondly, they talk as if they have the monopoly on the knowledge of scoring a fight. Yet had the guts to score 8th round a 10-8 round. Por que? JMM just outpunched Pac by a measly 12-probably 14 punches (not all actually are power punches, then blindly it becomes a 10-8 round. Pac did not even buckle his knees and was taking those punches well. How about when Pac ducked under a JMM punch and countered catching JMM in the chin, causing his knees to actually buckle and almost stumble, does it count then as a KD or the round should be a 10-8 (I can not remeber that exact round but there are so many gif of it). When you can be so generous to one fighter, then you must be to the other one. In basketball, you can not keep on calling a foul to one team while the other team is doing the same thing - that is a bias, and one that is so GLARING in this thread.

I tried listening to your reason or comprehend the logic behind your reasons, unfortunately all I see is extreme huggery.

I am a Pacfan since he was teenager but I am also a realist. The JMM - Pac fight was so close that if JMM won, I do not have any issues with it as long as the scorecards should reflect the actual event, unlike yours and Divac's which made me think that you were watching another fight or just under HYPNOSIS. NOW IF I ADMIT THAT IT WAS SO CLOSE, THAT AGAIN IS NOT AN ADMISSION THAT JMM ACTUALLY WON. You might use this again as evidence that JMM won.

In the end of the day, the scorcards of these people is what matters (not yours or anybody else);

Duane Ford 112-115 |Jerry Roth 115-112 | Tom Miller 113-114

and the announcement

New WBC super featherweight Champion of the World

 

I believe its unheard of, I at least, have never seen it.

 

I accept it willingly. Both Manny and Marquez lost the fight figuratively with these idiotic threads.

We try to cheapen the great fight with these meaningless arguments. The fight itself is so great that it will probably be remembered like the THRILLA in MANILA. But what makes it so cheap is the way we tried to besmirch the result of the fight. "The referres do not know how to score", blah blah blah,

Marquez lost, end of the story. And he did not loss lopsidedly but probably by the thinnest of margin imaginable (unlike somebody's out of this world scorecard). There is nothing to be ashamed of or that does not diminish whatsoever his staure as a great fighter.

BTW, had I had the mindframe of a JMM fan, I could have insisted that JMM lost because simply, even a JMM fan admitted that Manny Marquez lost.

 

your avatar :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Juan Manny Marquez lost. Yes, we accept it.

 

114-113 pac.. rds 1,3,4,7,9,10

watched it multiple times.. rd 11 and 12 couldve gone either way.

pac is the clear winner.. landing the harder punches throughout the fight

 

You must be joking. If you think he landed the harder punches over the course of the fight, u need to be sober before watching it again... I think I read somewhere that Juan Manuel Marquez is Manny's biological father. From now on, I'll refer to him as Manny Marquez.

 

You are the only one who knows so much about JMM that I bet you even know what he ate for breakfast! How are you Mr. Beristain?

Can somebody please post a post-fight pictures (preferably face) of Pac and JMM? The I can see how much damage each one caused against each other.

BTW, Manuel which means "GOD IS WITH US" and Manny (spanish version of Manuel) are one and the same name in the dictionary of names. So JUAN MANNY MARQUEZ = JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ.

 

I saw pictures on the internet that JMM only likes japanese boys. So JMM being Pacman's biological father is irrational.

 

lol at igbaras avy.

hmm. that looks familiar.

 

There was no room for interpretation in round 3. Marquez had the ropes supporting him, without the ropes he would have fallen a second time. When this occurs, what do you have? Yes, a knockdown!

Now, what puzzles me, is that some posters make an issue lobbying round 8 to be a 10-8 round, yet the third round where a definite second knockdown occurred, is conveniently swept under the rug. Is there a lack of objectivity here, or credibility is an overrated word anyway?

These clowns constantly complain about the judges' scoring, and because these same clowns are the icons of ideal fan behavior, you will not hear them protest against Kenny Bayless failing to call the second knockdown in the third round. Instead, they will allude to "conventions", like there was no time left anyways, or it was the referee's judgment call.

Notice any pattern here?

 

:rofl

 

That's a matter of opinion. I think it was a reflex more than anything else. He sure as hell wasn't "holding on for dear life" as some you ******s claim. Anyways, grabbing the ropes doesnt necessarily constitute a knockdown. Take a look at the rules from the WBC and the Marquess of Queensberry rule book respectively:

"A contestant shall be considered down when any part of his body, other than his feet, is on the floor, or if he is hanging helplessly over the ropes, and only is held up by the ropes, as the result of a legal blow. Only the Referee may determine whether there has been a knockdown."

Was Marquez hanging helplessly over the ropes? Was he only held up by the ropes?


"A man hanging on the ropes in a helpless state, with his toes off the ground, shall be considered down."

Was that the case with Marquez?

Man up and answer those questions truthfully. I know it's hard for you Manny Marquez fans to be objective, but give it a try. The referee made a decision. In my eyes, and considering what the rules of the fight stipulate, he made the right one. Round 3 was undoubtedly a 10-8. End of discussion.

Kartog, por favor discúlpate y salte.

 

Manny Marquez? Who is that? JMM? Since when did his name become Juan Manny Marquez? LOL I guess if you can't beat them, join them? LOL