Post Your Manny Pacquiao Vs Juan Manuel Marquez II Score Cards

great posts kartog.

haters here can't simply accept the fact that pac has been declared winner.

and yet none of them are man enough to admit that one of the judges in the first fight scored a 3 kd round as 10-7.

these people are too deep in jmm's ass to know the difference between illusion and reality.

judge erroneously scoring it at 10-7: FACT. UNDISPUTED. INCONTROVERTIBLE.
JMM schooling pac for the next 11 rounds: ILLUSION.

 

by the look of things, sleeplessness of these crybabies will fall to something worse like depression and eventually loss of sanity..

something like this:

jmm nuthuggers: :| :silly:yikes

*******s: :blah :rofl

 

JMM nuthuggers. :rofl

swinging for his sack. :hi:

 

GREAT POST!!!!

There is one RULE with DIVAC!

If the DOES NOT LIKE THE RESULTS! It's automatic! The judge is corrupt OR incompetent !

You know why?! ALL THE LOSSES OF JMM is due to corrupt/incompetent JUDGES

 

You dont seem to understand the fact that what youre saying is completely a matter of opinion. It is your opinion that Marquez was hanging helplessly over the ropes. Obviously, the referee saw it differently, as did I. The ref made the call. I saw round 8 as a 10-8 round. Thats the way i believe the round could have and should have been scored. Its my personal scorecard. Ive put forth my arguments and they seem pretty solid. When a fighter hurts his opponent, cuts him and lands over 4 times as many punches, its safe to say that he dominated that round. Your arguments simply do not hold up. You cant possibly believe what youre saying. Youre just being stubborn... Better arguments can be made in favor of a Marquez victory. I havent seen a single one of guys put forth an argument that makes me see things your way.

 

He didnt call it because he didnt see it like u do. I posted the rules and there's room for interpretation. Most people will agree that he made the right call. Many people believe the fight was wrongly score. Many experts think that. I'm not saying that the judges are corrupt, im simply saying that 2 of them scored it incorrectly. The rules regarding knockdowns once again:

"A contestant shall be considered down when any part of his body, other than his feet, is on the floor, or if he is hanging helplessly over the ropes, and only is held up by the ropes, as the result of a legal blow. Only the Referee may determine whether there has been a knockdown."

Was Marquez hanging helplessly over the ropes? Was he only held up by the ropes?


"A man hanging on the ropes in a helpless state, with his toes off the ground, shall be considered down."

Was that the case with Marquez?

 

When you push scoring the eighth round as 10-8, and you defend Kenny Bayless for missing the second knockdown in the third round, there seems to be a pattern on your part where you criticize fight officials when it is convenient for whatever agenda you have, and look the other way when the slips and mistakes they commit actually favor you.

You state that your 10-8 for round 8 is a personal opinion, which is probaby the only accurate thing in your posts.

Now, you state that Bayless made the decision to make it a non-call, and yet you question the three judges, not one, not two, but the whole gang when they scored the eighth as 10-9 and not 10-8?

I have no problem with Bayless not calling the second knockdown, but when people make something out of a molehill, like the eighth being scored 10-8, then it is imperative to make the second knockdown non-call clear to put things in their proper perspective.

Now you tell me if better arguments can indeed be made for a Marquez victory.

 

WBC rules state that "If the ropes prevent a fighter from going down, the referee will call it a knockdown."

Did Marquez holding on to the ropes prevent him from going down a second time?

 

No ****in' robbery here guys.

We need a third fight that's all.

 

B.S., it most certainly is the point. If most Pac fans are whining that should have been a knockdown and the ref should have counted it as one, then the late punch Pac threw in their first fight should have been a disqualifying one. Bottom line is both refs screwed up, and since both didn't count the respective penalties, they shouldn't even be part of the fight's discussions.

How do you figure what I said can go both ways? The only way was if Cortez had counted the illegal blow that hit Marquez while he was down, and disqualified Pac. Don't try and spin that any other way. And if you are going to go the other B.S. route, don't forget that there was no three knockdown rule, so don't even go there. Cortez was clearly in JMM's face and could see that his eyes were clear enough and body language were good enough to continue. No reason whatsoever to stop the fight.

"Harping" on the schooling? LOL. I don't know of any other great fighter who would have let an opponent finish a fight on his feet who he had knocked down three times, and with a broken nose to boot. The only ebb and flow in that fight was the combinations JMM was dishing out. If the fearsome puncher had landed as much as you guys had wanted, JMM would have been either knocked down again or knocked out.

You must follow judges scoring like gospel, but even they are wrong. Just like the judges who scored the following fights were wrong: Tito vs DLH, Santa Cruz vs Casamayor, Huerta vs Kid Diamond, Holyfield vs Lewis, and many others.

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what the judges did. In my heart and mind, I know Marquez won those fights. Just because he didn't get the official verdict won't change my mind.

 

No one is asking you to change your mind anyway.

The only time I raised the issue of scoring the holding of the hand as a knockdown is when somebody started scoring the 8th round a 10-8 round for JMM. I never had problem with the 10-8 score for the 3rd round but the 8th round, a 10-8 round as well? Not one single judge scored that round a 10-8 round except for most JMMTards, and likewise the referee did not see the holding of the rope eventhough legitimately, it came after 2 punches, therefore, accurately as a 10-8 round as well. No problem with that scorelines.

But here comes the JMMTards who could apply double standards in scoring a round. They could be the most generous judges in giving a 10-8 round in the 8th, yet overlook the 3rd round. And when I said generous, I mean I had seen much worst rounds than that 8th round and judges were not so genrous in giving 10-8 rounds. We are taliking of a round where pac was not even wobbled or on the verge of being knocked down. Even the 7 rounds prior to Hoya's quitting were much worse than that supposedly 10-8 round.

 

Let me ask you, did you score any of Pac's rounds with DLH, 10-8's???

 

Here's one for you divac.

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Probably the last round prior to the quitting. That was so bad, but not unlike the JMM-Pac 2 round 8. If I had to score the Pac-Hoya fight based on how generous you give 10-8 rounds, then starting from 2nd round, it is a 10-8 round until the "no mas".

 

Most people think that the 7th Round (where Compubox had Pacquiao outlanding DLH 47 w/ 45 power shots to 7) was a 10-8 round because during the last half of the round, DLH was getting pummeled and was absolutely helpless in the corner (twice) and couldn't throw any punches in that round. There had to be some concerns with stopping the fight. That's a 10-8 round without a knockdown.