Post Your Manny Pacquiao Vs Juan Manuel Marquez II Score Cards

This fight is very difficult to score. Its worse than a no solution ****ed up optical illusion.

 

It is. :yep

But sit yo ass down and score it, it will definitely improve your scoring ability! And it's a great fight to watch, in any case.

 

Pacquiao 114
Marquez 113

 

Marquez 115
Pacquiao 113

 

That is because JMM actually connected cleanly whereas Pac had more of the blinding punches, punches that you did not actually thought connected because it was fast.

BTW, even compubox had Pac winning 7 rounds to 5 round. That is not total punch connected because the entire 12 rounds, JMM actually had more connects by about 10 punches but punches connected per round. That could be explained by the 7th round (not sure could be 9th) when Pac had cut. That round, JMM connected more than 10 punches against Pac.

The judges point of view however is different from what we had in TV. They were seeing the fight in real time iun different perspective. It is not like the judges are the one filming the fight.

Just because you thought JMM won based on what you saw in the TV that that is the Gospel because the judges could have different perspective from yours.

That is why when we are doing the scoring in hindsight or video review, Pac is actually ekking it barely by a point. That is probably what the judges saw. The nearest that would be in favor for JMM is actually a draw.

You are just like some idiot who said that Donaire scored it for JMM therefore JMM should have won!!!! But wait, the JUDGES are surely corrupt, incorrigible inept, imbeciles who could not score a fight. So their scorecards do not count.

If and only if JMM avoided kissing the canvas, then there should be no debate. Judges always favor the aggressor in a very close fight - live with it because that is a reality in boxing.

If you had been the one judging, I am sure that JMM would have won 118-113 or somethiong like that and you would still see nothing wrong with it, similar to Divac's score.

 

i agreed with you

 

I think its because people saw what you just wrote.

 

The highlighted is the point I've always made about the ******* not knowing how to score a fight......

.....how the hell can you say there would be no debate if only JMM avoided kissing the canvas.......

Most Pacfans had Pac winning by a point (even they dont have the audacity to take it further that what is already ridiculous.).....in any regard, how the hell can you say there would be no debate had Marquez avoided the canvas???????
Those same Pacfans supposedly would now have had it a draw without the knockdown, and the debate would have been as heated as ever between fight fans who thought JMM clearly beat Pac without a knockdown, and the clowns that thought that even without a knockdown, Pac did just enough to get a draw!


I've heard alot of Pac fans post that they agree that without the knockdown JMM should have been the winner.......yet they themselves have Pac the winner with the knockdown.....
It just makes absolutely no sense.....if these *******s that have admitted JMM should be the winner had he not suffered a knockdown, the worst that they should have there scorecard with the knockdown that was scored is a draw.....

.....yet they have the audacity to say, "JMM wins if he does'nt kiss the canvas, but since he kissed it, I'm not going to explain how you go from JMM winning to Pac winning because of a single knockdown in a fight."

The fact that a Pac fan would say the knockdown was the difference between winning and losing for JMM, shows that the ******* has no clue on the scoring system and how a fight is scored.


IF JMM wins by a point without suffering a knockdown, suffering a knockdown then gets him a draw, not a loss.

 

:good

 

The knockdown is just 1 point swing in the scheme of the fight (assuming he was actually losing the round but a two point swing if he was winning the round prior to a knockdown), butthe perception of the judges changes because it was so early in the fight. That said, to say that that round did not affect the way judges scored the subsequent rounds is purely bull****.

If JMM did not suffer a knockdown, do you think we will still debate this???? Many who actually scored the fight for Pac attribute the win because of the knockdown. Had it not accurred, then it could have been a draw or a win for JMM because he was actually winning the exchanges in the early part of the third round. Your assumption of a draw was based on Pac actually winning that round.

 

pac>jmm

 

a draw or Pacquiao by a pt.

 

So whats your point?????

My point is that a great many *******s scored it only a one point victory for Pac......

Had the knockdown not occured and JMM won that 3rd round because of the knockdown not occuring, its supposedly a 2 point victory for JMM.......

Had Pac won the 3rd round without the knockdown occuring, its a draw.

Bottom line is that Pac won the 3rd round.......Marquez may have or may have not won the round had he not been knocked down.


.....and please, you know as well as I do that had that knockdown not occured, the ******* would have found another round to take from JMM so that Pac got the fight on there scorecard......of this I'd stake my life on!

 

The point is that you do not know how to score a fight. The 3rd round is 10-9 in favor of JMM if the KD had not happened because he was actually winning that round prior to the KD of course. Then it became a 10-8 (or 10-7 if you correctly call the holding of the rope as KD)in favor of Pac simply because of the KD.

In the mother of all assumptions, if JMM was not KDed, the *******s would have a 1 point win for JMM and a 5 or 6 points win for you basing on your previous scorecard in other threads. PLus, JMM would probably get more close rounds with the judges, the rounds that even if we debate for 50 years, we will never come to a conclusion.

 

well it doesn't matter to you because you scored this fight 9-3 for jmm. now who is more bias, the *******s who scored it 6 rounds a piece or you divac who scored it 9-3 using your jmm goggles?

bottom line is, almost all people had this fight close either 7-5 or 6-6 but you on the other hand with guys like uliuli had this fight 9-3 or 10-2.