Post your pound for pound list for the start of 2015

in reality i agree with you, Triple G blows out everyone in his division more decisively than him, but i gave the nod to Gonzalez out of respect to his superior resume.

 

I got you

 

cordoba, donaire, agbeko are d or c grade fighters? spastic.

 

Most of these lists are laughably bad.

1) F. Mayweather
2) M. Pacquiao
3) G. Rigondeaux
4) R. Gonzalez
5) W. Klitschko
6) N. Inoue
7) T. Bradley
8) J.M. Marquez
9) J. Estrada
10) C. Froch
11) M Cotto
12) S. Kovalev
13) S. Alvarez
14) A. Stevenson
15) T. Crawford
16) N. Walters
17) G. Golovkin
18) D. Garcia
19) M. Garcia
20) E. Lara
21) B. Hopkins
22) N. Donaire
23) S. Yamanaka
24) T. Uchiyama
25) M. Huck
26) M. Maidana
27) L. Matthysse
28) K. Brook
29) M. Herrera
30) A. Ruenroeng

 

In response to your criticisms despite it not being my list and it not being a very good one:

6. Bradley (draw with Chavez, numerically impossible win over Provodnikov...)

Absolutely wasn't a draw against Chaves, horrible robbery. And he beat Provodnikov by my own and many other people's scorecards.

7. JMM (Life and death with Alvarado, loss to Bradley, lucky shot against Pacquiao, roids...)

Wasn't really, he dominated it all apart from being knocked down and then going to war for a few rounds. Also, wasn't a lucky shot at all. You know better than to say that.

11. Stevenson (WAY too high...who has he beat? Dawson off a KO loss and then...?)

He is the lineal LHW champ with good wins over Dawson, Cloud, Sukhotsky, Fonfara. But yeah he is a few spaces too high.

13. Walters (Donaire isn't THAT good...)

He's deserving of being around about here I'd say, two solid wins in 2014

14. Inoue ( shun the nonbeliever)

Should be higher but I can see why he's here as many don't know **** about the lower divisions

15. M Garcia (Not active, if he was he should be top 10)

I struggle to know what to do with poor Mikey.

16. D Garcia (dafuq...)

Deserving I'd say, has good wins over Khan, Matthysse, Morales x2, Holt and others

20. Crawford (Should be top 10)

Top 10 would be too high but he should be around the 15 range

22. Cotto (Would lose to any healthy top 10 guy at 147-160)

Doesn't matter, still got a hell of a win and with his career accomplishments I think he is way too low here.

25. J Gonzalez (Lucky shot vs Mares/No chin)

You need to stop going on about lucky shots. You knwo better than this

26. Khan (Barely a top 10 welter)

Yeah laughable this tbh

29. Loma (Should be way higher)"

Hasn't the wins to prove it.

 

1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Tyson Fury
4. Bryant Jennings
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Bermane Stiverne
7. Vyachelsav Glaskov
8. Carlos Takam
9. Tony Thompson
10. Deontay Wilder

 

Your list is similar to mine - Cotto and Lara I think are the only 2 difference in personnel in top 20.

 

Yours is the most respectable compared to everyone elses in this thread but I feel you have GGG waaaaaaaaay too high given the low quality of his wins. I think he certainly has the talent to be there and he is doing all he can but till he gets a marquee win I can't put him as a top 10 really. I also think Inoue should be a bit higher although I think I might have put him too high. I think he should be at or just outside top 10. Estrada should be top 10 too.

 

decent list dob. everyone knows heavyweights are the best.

 

Yeah I'm taking some liberty with GGG but the way I see it is that he is the best at his weight and factoring in the manner at which he has disposed of top 10 contenders. But I agree a marquee win is important for him. I'm trying to avoid a knee-jerk reaction with Inoue like I did with Broner (putting him in at #10 after beating DeMarco I was proved wrong after and Inoue looks the real deal but their wins are somewhat comparable in that they stepped up in weight and KO'd the #1 ranked there). I'm just more comfortable putting Inoue in the top 10 after I see him again.

 

I remember your cringeworthy 'G' list that had Broner and Floyd on it patsch

 

I see, that's very fair reasoning. Inoue is 21 year old 8 fight novice who in the space of one year won two world titles in two divisions beating the 1 ranked guy at each weight to do so, so I think he's already more proven than Broner ever was. He also hasn't had the struggles that Broner showed early in his career and he technically looks far more advanced. I feel pretty secure in Inoue, Broner I always thought was going to be exposed.

 

:good

 

This is not an attack on you or your list, simple a question, Im from GB too, do you see enough of the fighters on your list to make such a list?

 

how many of these guys fights have you seen?
Yamanaka
Uchiyama
Ruenroeng - fighting zoo next? where does zoo go if he beats him,?