Post your scorecard Haney-Loma

I think this is a good card except for 12, which i saw for Lomachenko clear.

 

How about mine?

Round 1 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 2 Lomachenko 10-9, close
Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 4 Haney 10-9
Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 6 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 7 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 8 Haney 10-9
Round 9 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 10 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 11 Lomachenko 10-9
Round 12 Haney 10-9

117-111 Lomachenko

 

It's not a good card based on a) my scorecard b) all the data-driven evidence I can find. The Boxrec average card was a good addition which sees it 115-113 Loma.

 

Oh... but his was, when it's 116-112, with caveats that it could be as wide as 118-110. While mine has a caveat that it could be 116-112. Yeah, sure... okay.

 

I mean, there will be outliers that will be wide, that's true. But they're clearly unusual - they are not normal and it might turn out that they're actually defendable on a round-by-round breakdown of what's reasonable (**** that) because all the rounds are so split; but clearly the 115-113, 114-114 and 113-115 scorecards have hit the sweet spot.

So without being a good scorecard, it might not be horrible - your reaction to those close scorecards (just about done with boxing etc) was though.

 

So... you've devise an answer to what is or isn't a good scorecard, and 8 in the morning? I couldn't give a **** what the average is. Loma deserved the win, my scorecard was fine, the vast majority of the internet agree with me, and don't agree with your "nothing to see here folks!" POV.

 

I don't understand this. I don't think it makes sense.

It's definitely not "nothing to see here" it's wild stuff, my perspective is more that the people who think the church roof has fallen in are way off. So people who think Loma won are fine by me, I had a feeling he was winning myself as the fight wound out, I'm much more interested in the fact that almost everyone has it close.

That's because it was a close fight.

 

In your opinion, which is one most people disagree with. Also, it's the whole pattern thing. This isn't some anomaly, it happens every time anyone non-American fight on US, and usually UK soil. Only this one is more egregious, because they just robbed a guy, back from Ukraine, who everyone was cheering, of his lifelong dream of being undisputed, when most people, even including the American fans in attendance, who thought he'd pulled off. Big picture stuff here at play, focus on the macro, not the micro.

 

My opinion is that the fight was close, and most people agree with it.

 

Yet they still think it's a robbery, and stand by that... so they really don't.

 

Boxrec doesn't have it as a robbery. They have it as a very close fight. That's the data. I like that because it eliminates bias, or minimises it. Eye on the Ring don't have it as a robbery. They have it as a very close fight. In fact, there are more drawn cards on there than I've ever seen for a fight, already. And the live Round-By-Round guys who do it for a living had it as a very close fight. All cards were either 114-114, 115-113 or 113-115 with one exception (116-112 Loma, Bloody Elbow). None of them have a robbery.

The next bit for me will be ringside media cards, but it's proving trick. So far I have two that are definitely ringside. 115-113 and 113-115.