post your top 10 alltime australian greats

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  1. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hard to compare Les Darcy, Young Griffo etc (who naturally I never saw) to Johnny Famechon & Lionel Rose (who I saw as a kid) and the later day champs such as Fenech, Tszyu, Darchinyan etc.

    Did get down the best Aussies in each weight division during my time watching (late 60’s til present):

    HW
    1/ Steve ACZEL 2/ Dean WATERS 3/ Kali MEEHAN - hard to split this lot.

    CW
    1/ Glen KELLY 2/ Doug SAM 3/ Daniel ROWSELL - not much between these either.

    LHW
    1/ Jeff HARDING 2/ Bobby DUNLOP 3/ Paul BRIGGS - Harding the stand-out here (more courage than brains, world title etc).

    SMW
    1/ Anthony MUNDINE 2/ Danny GREEN 3/ Guy WATERS - Mundine the stand-out and will add to that (particularly if he starts fighting better opponents).

    MW
    1/ Tony MUNDINE (Snr) 2/ Ken SALISBURY 3/ Daniel GEALE – Tony Mundine was very much world class and would have won title but for a legend in Monzon (definately more talented than Anthony though Anthony can still add to what he's achieved).

    LMW
    1/ Rocky MATIOLLI 2/ Charkey RAMON 3/ Troy WATERS - all class acts these 3. Matiolli won a world title. Ramon only lost once, was Commonwealth champ when they meant about as much as the current day world championships, and was capable of winning a world title. Waters was genuine world class.

    WW
    1/ Jeff MALCOLM 2/ Frank ROPIS 3/ Brian JANSEEN – Malcolm & Ropis were warriors. Malcolm’s longitivety was quite amazing.

    LWW
    1/ Kostya TSZYU 2/ Lester ELLIS 3/ Hec THOMPSON - Tszyu & Ellis both won world championships. Thompson was world class but ran into a legend in Roberto Duran (timing can be as important as class).

    LW
    1/ Michael KATSIDIS 2/ Billy MOELLER 3/ Tony MILLER - Katsidis is a warrior, has held a world title & will get more chances if he learns to protects himself better.

    SFW
    1/ Barry MICHAEL 2/ Robbie PEDEN 3/ Brian SCHOFIELD - Michael the stand-out with long record and late title stolen from a young Lester Ellis. Peden accomplished plenty too.

    FW
    1/ Johnny FAMECHON 2/ Bobby DUNNE 3/ Lucky GATTELARI - How good was Fammo!! Dunne was Commonwealth champ when they meant almost as much as current day world championships

    SBW
    1/ Jeff FENECH 2/ Nedal HUSSEIN 3/ Daniel IANNAZZO - Not a strong field to choose from. Fenech was a gun & but for sore hands could have achieved even more. Iannazzo has enormous potential.

    BW
    1/ Paul FERRERI 2/ Lionel ROSE 3/ Brian ROBERTS - Ferreri was Commonwealth champ for years & years, and only a legend in Carlos Zarate stopped him winning world title. Rose won a world title. Roberts was better than his record suggests & would have been Commonwealth champ for years but for Ferreri.

    SFlyW
    1/ Vic DARCHINYAN 2/ and 3/ no obvious choices - Darchinyan dominated this division until recently. May yet win another world title.

    FlyW
    1/ Henry NISSEN 2/ Hussy Hussein 3/ Steve Bell - Nissen didn’t campaign long but was Commonwealth champ when it meant plenty.

    Hard yakka! Bet I missed some out entirely, and there are probably arguments for all sorts of changes. Hard also to confine some to their correct weight division when they won titles at different limits.
     
  2. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hard to compare Les Darcy, Young Griffo etc (who naturally I never saw) to Johnny Famechon & Lionel Rose (who I saw as a kid) and the later day champs such as Fenech, Tszyu, Darchinyan etc.

    Did get down the best Aussies in each weight division during my time watching (late 60’s til present):

    HW
    1/ Steve ACZEL 2/ Dean WATERS 3/ Kali MEEHAN - hard to split this lot.

    CW
    1/ Glen KELLY 2/ Doug SAM 3/ Daniel ROWSELL - not much between these either.

    LHW
    1/ Jeff HARDING 2/ Bobby DUNLOP 3/ Paul BRIGGS - Harding the stand-out here (more courage than brains, world title etc).

    SMW
    1/ Anthony MUNDINE 2/ Danny GREEN 3/ Guy WATERS - Mundine the stand-out and will add to that (particularly if he starts fighting better opponents).

    MW
    1/ Tony MUNDINE (Snr) 2/ Ken SALISBURY 3/ Daniel GEALE – Tony Mundine was very much world class and would have won title but for a legend in Monzon (definately more talented than Anthony though Anthony can still add to what he's achieved).

    LMW
    1/ Rocky MATIOLLI 2/ Charkey RAMON 3/ Troy WATERS - all class acts these 3. Matiolli won a world title. Ramon only lost once, was Commonwealth champ when they meant about as much as the current day world championships, and was capable of winning a world title. Waters was genuine world class.

    WW
    1/ Jeff MALCOLM 2/ Frank ROPIS 3/ Brian JANSEEN – Malcolm & Ropis were warriors. Malcolm’s longitivety was quite amazing.

    LWW
    1/ Kostya TSZYU 2/ Lester ELLIS 3/ Hec THOMPSON - Tszyu & Ellis both won world championships. Thompson was world class but ran into a legend in Roberto Duran (timing can be as important as class).

    LW
    1/ Michael KATSIDIS 2/ Billy MOELLER 3/ Tony MILLER - Katsidis is a warrior, has held a world title & will get more chances if he learns to protects himself better.

    SFW
    1/ Barry MICHAEL 2/ Robbie PEDEN 3/ Brian SCHOFIELD - Michael the stand-out with long record and late title stolen from a young Lester Ellis. Peden accomplished plenty too.

    FW
    1/ Johnny FAMECHON 2/ Bobby DUNNE 3/ Lucky GATTELARI - How good was Fammo!! Dunne was Commonwealth champ when they meant almost as much as current day world championships

    SBW
    1/ Jeff FENECH 2/ Nedal HUSSEIN 3/ Daniel IANNAZZO - Not a strong field to choose from. Fenech was a gun & but for sore hands could have achieved even more. Iannazzo has enormous potential.

    BW
    1/ Paul FERRERI 2/ Lionel ROSE 3/ Brian ROBERTS - Ferreri was Commonwealth champ for years & years, and only a legend in Carlos Zarate stopped him winning world title. Rose won a world title. Roberts was better than his record suggests & would have been Commonwealth champ for years but for Ferreri.

    SFlyW
    1/ Vic DARCHINYAN 2/ and 3/ no obvious choices - Darchinyan dominated this division until recently. May yet win another world title.

    FlyW
    1/ Henry NISSEN 2/ Hussy Hussein 3/ Steve Bell - Nissen didn’t campaign long but was Commonwealth champ when it meant plenty.

    Hard yakka! Bet I missed some out entirely, and there are probably arguments for all sorts of changes. Hard also to confine some to their correct weight division when they won titles at different limits.
     
  3. sallywinder

    sallywinder Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** me. best post ive seen on ESP, period. well done. you know your stuff. how refreshing....
     
  4. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bit short on detail for me :yep
     
  5. gloveup

    gloveup Member Full Member

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    Nice stuff couldofbeen. Imagine some of those guys against middeweights Sands, Ron Richards and Darcy or the welters you chose against Jack Carroll George Barnes and Burns etc and lightweights such as Patrick, Bracken and Hassen. Would have been awesome fights.

    Dino
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am a pom, so it is probably none of my business, but I cannot see any mention of who I think is possibly Australia's finest fighter of the 20th century; Jimmy Carruthers.
     
  7. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, good call TBOOZE. Carruthers was a legend, no doubt about that. Peter Jackson another.
     
  8. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kylie Minougue
    Dame Edna
    Rolf Harris
    Croc Dundee
    Mrs Mangle ( yea i watched soaps when first married )
    Sister scott ( see above )
    Ned ( Tin bucket head ) kelly
    Les Hiddings
    The bearded burbler ( Ol Rex )
    Airs rock
    .............That is all
     
  9. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sheep
    Sheep
    Sheep
    Sheep
    Sheep
    Sheep
    Tom Jones
    ....That is all :)
     
  10. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    Leeks, don't forget leeks.
     
  11. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Quit with all the sheep comments Mate . We dont want Teke knocking the lap top over with his hard on :rofl
     
  12. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wales v Australia 29th November Millenium stadium , just booked the long weekend off for a full twister .:good More booze than Ollie Reid and more charlie than Bosnich :happy :happy :happy
     
  13. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    They eat plankton and the Japs think they taste nice too.
     
  14. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Were you educated in America Mcs :huh
     
  15. LeonMcS

    LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton Full Member

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    And if you don't pay up on a bet, that makes you one.