Posters who Predicted Hopkins to Beat Pavlik

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  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Slow start for both men...both trying to guage speed and acclimate to their opponents quickness and reflexes....By Round 3 Joe ups his punch out put a lot....sitting down more on his shots...Jones using the Jab very effectively sets up his quick right hands and eventully begins to land with lead rights to Joe's head and body. The speed ends up being a huge advantage for the older Roy jones who by round 6 in a close fight lands the more meaningful punches...Joe lands and throws more...I beleive this fight ends by KO....Jones by left hook set up by one of those lead rights or by an uppercut off the left hook and ends the night by Round 9 or 10. Up to the time of stoppage it's a fairly even fight with Jones ahead by a slim margin.:deal :hey
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :good
     
  3. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Rjj is not shot to pieces I predict him to UD Joe.

    I think he still has enough left in the tank to take this.
     
  4. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Speed! at 39 Jones Jr. is as fast as Joe was at his best...(Serveral yrs ago)
    According to 24/7 Joe think's he is gonna outbox Roy, Bad move.

    Calzaghe's best bet would be to attempt to swarm Jones..
    If he get's into a chess or fencing match with Jr. it's gonna be a long night for Joe.
     
  5. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    I called Hopkins-Pavlik for Hopkins... but honestly I don't see how one CAN predict a winner for Calzaghe-Jones. There's just no telling which Jones will show up to fight. He says, and acts like he will fight like he used to, if thats the case I think he can beat Calzaghe, possibly even knock him out on a counter. But if he fights as timid as he has his past few fights, then I think Calzaghe will win a decision. The version of him that fought Trinidad was deceptively good, he wasn't as flashy as he used to be, and wasn't as much of a force offensively.. but his counters were very dangerous, and he punched VERY accurately, with good enough power. If that version is the one that shows up... I think its very hard to tell. I suspect if that Roy shows up, that Roy COULD knock out Calzaghe on a counter, but Calzaghe will still be able to swamp him with activity because once Roy's only way to deal with Calzaghe's combinations is to cover up and probably end up laying on the ropes. I don't think Calzaghe will be able to knock out Jones.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    If Joe tries to outbox Roy and fails, he'll make adjustments.

    At this stage, Joe is more versatile than Jones.

    The question is, can Jones hurt Calzaghe? If he can, it will be cause for concern. If he can't, Calzaghe will outwork and out-hustle Roy.
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    This post more or less reflects my own views.
     
  8. The Mighty Bolo

    The Mighty Bolo Active Member Full Member

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    I picked Hopkins because of Pavliks style. I like Roy because he can still do some things that Joe can't. **** all the 'shot' comments. Jones can still punch! Hard and Fast! If his legs were shot Calzaghe has nothing to expose it with. RJJ is not Jeff Lacy.If you think Joe is going to land 1/10 of that many punches on RJJ you might wanna keep your bets in the tens or hundreds column. He might even stop Joe.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I said from the outset that Hopkins would beat Pavlik and fairly easily. I never viewed Pavlik as an A level fighter, and never saw him show the ability to adapt, which he would have had to do against Hopkins. He couldn't do it.

    I think it will be a fairly entertaining fight, and Roy will see the final bell but Calzaghe will win handily. Roy is a shadow of what he once was, and won't be able to keep up with Calzaghe's workrate. Jones doesn't have the power to knock Joe out, in my opinion.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I've saved this post so when Joe wins a clear decision, I will be able to get your afterthoughts on the fight. You let your heart rule your head.
     
  11. The Prophet

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    I am in awe of the amount of posters here who seem to have forgotten RJJ's last 7 fights. The last impressive win that Roy Jones Jr. had at Light Heavyweight was against Clinton Woods in 2002. The fact that some are actually favoring Roy can only be explained by either complete delusion or a not so sub-conscious bias against Joe Calzaghe. If this fight is at all close at any point, it will only be because Joe lets it be close, not wanting to denigrate his, and I repeat HIS CHOICE, for in all likelihood the last opponent of his career. Aside from the money, this is a no-win situation for anyone involved.
    RJJ - Because he can't win.
    Joe - Because even when he wins, few American fans will give him credit for it.
    B-Hop - When Roy loses, it takes away from any possible rematch with Roy.

    Fantasy: That Jones has a chance to win.

    Reality: Jones is a sacrificial lamb happy to cash out on his once stellar career.
     
  12. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    Jones will surprise, I believe he will outclass Joe
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't think bhop had that much left in his tank, especially because he gassed against Cal late in the fight. I thought he finally got old in that fight. I've never been so happy to be dead wrong.
     
  14. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I predicted a ko for BHop but close enough
     
  15. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't predict that B-Hop would beat Pavlik, but I said that the old man shouldn't be counted out. A pick'em fight. I say exactly the same for Roy Jones-Calzaghe. Obviously Calzaghe has a different style than Pavlik, and he fights at his weight, but in the end it depends if Roy can bring his A game and turn back time once again, like B-Hop did. If he does, he will win, if not well... i won't make a prediction, all I say is don't count Roy out in this one. And I'll root for him.