Potential Economics of Joshua vs Wilder and whether it will be in Vegas or UK.

I'm a scientist; I was simply stating facts, not insults.

This fight won't sell in the US like it would in the UK! I'm not trying to deny Brits coming to Vegas, singing songs, drinking till they puke, losing money at the casinos, disappointing prostitutes, and adding lots of cash to the economy. It just won't sell.

Joshua is a well known figure in the UK, can sell out Wembley, and the time of the fight is better for Europeans.
A re-match would work in Vegas, but only if they put on a good fight the first time.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I have two English grandsons. I'm only winding you limeys up.

 

Nice to see you Yanks got some banter,we'll save it foreachother when this Fight gets actually made,we'll see who comes out on top,Lewis v Tyson was the last time,both our top fighters from the Divison pitted up against eachother.BTW,It was a Sheer Joy reading those first Seven Sentences,looks like you know us well,all the best sunshine.

 

When Wilder knocked out Stiverne in the vicious manner he did, it set the stage and lit the torch for a mega fight with Joshua. A fight where the revenues will be on pace with May/Pac or May/ Conner. It's a big boy fight and the UK can't hold it. It has to be held in the US where the real money making takes place. Hearn is good but he is a B class promoter and this is an A class endeavor. He knows that and that's why he's squawking like a chicken.

 

Nobody knows who Wilder is. That isn't even PPV worthy in the US, IMO.

 

Said Wilder in the immediate aftermath of his win over Stiverne last weekend, referring to Joshua: "No more hiding. Let's see who's the best. I'll go to England to prove it."

I seriously hope Hearn and Joshua remind Wilder of this quote -- especially the third and final part -- and call his bluff by challenging Wilder to fight Joshua at Wembley or Cardiff.

If Wilder doesn't back up this talk, he will prove -- once again -- that he is nothing more than a fraud and a conman who is only too happy to hold the WBC title hostage and milk his title in defences against soft touches, and is not bold enough nor confident enough in himself and his abilities to truly dare to be great.

 

I feel like some sort of idiot keep repeating myself but somebody please explain to me how Wilder is earning 1-2 million per fight?

Let's just start there, if Wilder is a draw in the US and can generate money then why is he being paid so little, far less now than Joshua's late replacement.


Joshua is earning 10-15 times more than Wilder does over here per fight.

Joshua was suppose to be fighting Pulev. Pulev is hardly a huge name and it sold out a 90,000 Stadium and even with the late replacement the PPV numbers were apparently very good.

So I don't see how this stacks up with Wilders claims it has to be in the US, if money was there or is there then why isn't Wilder earning it?

 

They can't answer it....their answer is: ' but but Wilder is an American doe! so it has to go our way!'

 

Haha I know, it's driving me slightly mental, nobody wants to explain where this money is coming from.

Probably because they will have to admit Wilder isn't the draw, Joshua is.. he will bring the money over to the US.

So if they admit that then Joshua being the money will and should have more power in negotiations, the 50/50 split argument is gone, the US argument is basically gone because there is no reason to have the fight in the US if Wilder can't generate the money.

I think it is a question Wilder fans should be able to answer, why is Wilder paid so little compared to Joshua?

I don't think it's a complicated question but I don't think I'm going to get an answer from them.

 

This. Joshua vs. Wilder if promoted properly is a way bigger fight than Canelo vs. GGG and especially if it happens in Vegas.

 

Wtf are you talking about?

Joshua is filling stadiums with 90,000 people and Wilder is struggling to fill the Legacy Arena with a capacity of 17,500.

Simple question for you.. Why is Wilder being paid 1-2 million per fight?

 

$53M sounds so low? The gate alone for the PAC/Mayweather fight was $72M. I'd figure Wimbley stadium could at least hit $50M with 90k capacity? The MGM capacity is on 16K. The numbers seem way off.

 

He's not a draw here in the US. I don't think anyone is denying that? The fight should be in the U.K. Financially it makes sense. Wilder seems to be flexing a bit not wanting to come off as being completely dictated to by Joshua and Hearn. He does have some leverage but it's just the fact that he has a title and is viewed as Joshua's biggest threat. But he's going to have to take a smaller cut and go where Joshua is a big draw

 

I agree.

I want to see the fight, I really do but Wilder, his team and his fans need to calm down and get sensible.

 

I agree. Wilder will come to his senses. He's just negotiating through the media. Starting off unreasonable is just a strategy to squeeze more money out of Joshua and Hearn. He knows he's not getting 50%. He will land somewhere between 30%-40%. I am guessing 35%? If he holds firm at 50/50 he's ducking the fight or is completely delusional and will end up regretting his decision down the road