Pound 4 Pound - Who is the Best….

Forget the H2H stuff in P4P talk. You base them on achievement and ability. The H2H is far too subjective.

 

I think anyone who starts off a new thread with "Shut the **** up..." should get the boot.

 

Er, that isn't what pound-for-pound means though. To decide who is a greater fighter pound-for-pound between Ricardo Lopez and Lennox Lewis, you don't imagine a 5 feet tall 7 stone Lewis or a 6ft 5in 245lbs Lopez! Are you serious?! Pound-for-pound means ranking fighters by how good they were at their own weight and through what they achieved at the weights they fought at. Example: Pernell Whitaker is a greater fighter pound-for-pound than Kelly Pavlik because Whitaker was a better lightweight than Pavlik was a middleweight, as he proved by beating better opposition and being more dominant at his own weight. Whitaker also achieved more - winning more world titles at more weights. You cannot compare them h2h because they never fought at the same weights, and you cannot scale them up or down as that would inherently change them thus rendering the comparison utterly pointless.

 

I endorse this post and it's author. He and I were at odds early on but have since recognized the value in eachother's opinion.

Thank you.

 

We have indeed. :good

 

And there you have it.

 

Seconded.

 

P4P debates are simple heres an example - Marvin Hagler is a better
P4P then say someone like Buster Douglas because Hagler did more and did better at 160 then Buster did at HW overall. Then you can say Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali are close at a P4P perspective because Robinson did great and did alot from 147 - 160 lbs and Ali did great and alot at HW and they are some what comparable because of their accomplishments. All P4P rankings do is compare accomplishments of the great fighters not who would beat who on the list unless they were roughly the same weight.

 

Calzaghe should have a slight edge here he has been consistant hasnt lost a single fight, and has dominated all of his recent opponents.

 

LoL. What a ******. This fool might as well go and argue with himself, starting a thread like this

 

John Ruiz.

 

LoL. You just beat me to it