Pound-for-Pound Rankings 1977

Eh?:huh

 

Really; I must be going blind then:

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=4986&cat=boxer

I make it over 100 myself...

 

Zarate i was talking about, bro

 

Then why did you write Zamora!!!

I think Zarate did fight better opposition than is suggested, particularly when he begins main eventing shows. But they (his opponents in his first three years as a pro) were clearly not anywhere near top notch.

 

i was thinking the same thing :!:

anyway, i think it speaks to to advantages and disadvantages of fighters from previous eras with more fights. though zarate was certainly not the best example, when boxers with records of over 100, 200, etc. fights are discussed, how many of those wins came over ACTUAL bums, hobos and cab drivers?

i mean zarate did face his fair share of solid competition but 2 wins out of 25 guys?? that's ****ed up.

 

A lot of them records will be incomplete. Also a percentage of fights on the old time boxers will not of been recorded, they would of been the fights against the bums and hobos.

The vast majority of recorded pro fights with documentary evidence to back it up, will be against not always the best, but generally a fighter who knows what he is doing in the ring.

 

As in his fight with Zamora.

Im not knocking his resume, i dont know anything about it. Someone posted about a dramatic rise in recognition for him after the Zamora fight. Was suggesting that his resume previous to that fight might be why

 

:goodfair enough. it would seem a little misleading to me, to use a ridiculous win record as evidence of greatness when the competition shouldn't even be in the ring. i'm glad to hear the standards, for the most part, meant they were actual boxers even if subpar ones.

 

Guys, in regards to Mexican records, they are deceiving. It is pointless to say Mexican record keeping is atrocious, because it was non-existant. It just wasn't done. Boxrec has done a remarkable job of piecing together mnay of these records, but they are simply incomplete. When you see fighters such as Zamora, Zarate, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Joe Medel, etc. against a fighter that is 0-0, don't take that literal. Moreover, which makes it even more difficult is the fact that Mexican fighters will go by a nickname, making it almost impossible to track them. I remember contacting boxrec once when I discovered the real name of a fighter whom they had listed under a nickname. When they implemented the correct name, 30 fights appeared for this particular fighter. There is a vast undertaking involved in finding all of the fights gone under the radar, which would certainly enhance or detract from a fighter. Even well-known fighters suffer from incompletes, unless you believe fighters such as Efren Torres, Famoso Gomez and Cesar Deciga actually did turn pro in 10 rounders.

Scartissue

 

I'd really appreciate it if you could post whatever was written about him :good

 

No surprise to see no heavyweights there as it was quite a strange time.

Ali had just received a gift against norton who, in reality, was the top dog but had also been smashed all over the ring by foreman who had begun to really struggle in fights. Holmes wasn't as big yet neither.

 

What was mentioned about Everett MDWC?

On the strength of seeing him being ranked top 10 or thereabouts before his death I just watched his fight with Escalera today on youtube.

The picture quality was terrible but you could see Everett looked to have all the tools (maybe except for power) and he looked to be ridiculously fast and slick. He made a very,very good fighter look pedestrian in there and the decision was as ****ing disgraceful as advertised.

It's a testament to his showing in this fight that he was so highly regarded following it even though he "lost".