Pound for pound: Top 10s of Fischer, Rosenthal

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  1. Wiirdo

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    Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
     
  2. winterchill

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    :lol: koki kameda? anyone?
     
  3. AnthonyW

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    I like this description of Mayweather.

    'Floyd Mayweather Jr.:Boxing’s best blend of talent, skill and technique is undefeated over 14 years. Toughest foe may be himself.'

    Also, Rosenthal...Ward is not P4P #4.
     
  4. Wiirdo

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    Seriously though I like Fischer's list other than Vitali being on it. Montiel definitely deserves to be on it.
     
  5. AnthonyW

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    Yeah, I'd probably agree with that...
     
  6. winterchill

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    poll coming up! vote guys!
     
  7. jpab19

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    Dont agree with Rosenthal having Bradley, Ward, Juanma and Williams that high, dont agree with Fischer having Vitali that high, Williams that high and having Adamek in there at all.
     
  8. FORMIDABLE

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    ****, Doug Fischer got it spot on imo.

    He's rewarding fighters for dominance and for challenging themselves, as opposed to most who put hype and supposed ability first. Having 2 Klits in the top 5 and Wonjongkam and Adamek top 10 is just right.

    Also nice to see someone acknowledge Pac for his Leonard-esque 5-1-1 (3KO) record over the other members of the 'Fab Four' of his generation. i thought I was the only one who gives him any credit for it.

    I don't like Rosenthal's list. Ward and Lopez are way too high. They should be low end/borderline top 10 at most, atleast until they prove they are worthy of that ranking.
     
  9. winterchill

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    so far fischer > rosenthal
     
  10. winterchill

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    Doug Fischer’s Top 10

    1. Manny Pacquiao: Fighter of the decade proved mettle by going 5-1-1 against fellow future hall of famers Marquez, Barrera and Morales.
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.:Boxing’s best blend of talent, skill and technique is undefeated over 14 years. Toughest foe may be himself.
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez: 37-year-old lightweight champ is last man to give Pacquiao a fight. Only decisive loss was to Mayweather in a welterweight bout.
    4. Wladimir Klitschko: Heavyweight champ, on 13-bout win streak, has completely dominated his division for last four years.
    5. Vitali Klitschko: 39-year-old former champ is every bit as dominant as younger brother.
    6. Paul Williams: Former welterweight titleholder has been a contender in three divisions. Nov. 20 rematch with Martinez is proof he seeks challenges.
    7. Sergio Martinez: Middleweight champ is 1-1-1 in his last three bouts but most thought he beat Kermit Cintron and some believe he deserved the nod against Williams. Title-winning fight with Kelly Pavlik and rematch with Williams proof Martinez relishes a challenge.
    8. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam: Flyweight champ has lost once in his last 69 bouts. Majority decision over Kameda in March clinched future Hall of Fame induction.
    9. Fernando Montiel:Talented three-division beltholder is unbeaten in last 11 bouts, including impressive stoppage of Hasegawa in a title-unification bout.
    10. Tomasz Adamek: Former cruiserweight champ, now rated at heavyweight, has won 11 bouts since his only loss, a decision to Dawson at light heavyweight. Veteran has been a contender in boxing’s three heaviest weight classes, which is very rare.


    Michael Rosenthal’s Top 10

    1. Manny Pacquiao: Most-impressive combination of ability and achievements. The greatest fighter of his generation.
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.: Most-gifted and polished boxer must do more to prove he’s best.
    3. Paul Williams: Must beat Martinez in more-convincing fashion in rematch to solidify position here.
    4. Andre Ward: Complete fighter might be next dominant figure in boxing.
    5. Sergio Martinez:Victory over Williams lifts late bloomer even higher.
    6. Timothy Bradley: Talented but has other 140-pounders on his heels.
    7. Juan Manuel Lopez: The new Puerto Rican star, loaded with talent and power, could be tested by veteran Rafael Marquez.
    8. Wladimir Klitschko: Utter domination of division speaks volumes.
    9. Vitali Klitschko: See Wladimir.
    10. Juan Manuel Marquez: Old man proved against Juan Diaz that he has plenty left.
     
  11. Cobbler

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    Like Fischer's list about as much as any others out there.
     
  12. FlatNose

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    I second that!
     
  13. hussleman

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    Michael Rosenthal’s Top 10, is better IMO. JMM, is too low though a #10.
     
  14. Doc (aka Meke)

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    what did Lopez or Ward do to get a top 10 spot? that's just mindboggling... they ma eran it was a few quality victories in the future, but now they probably don't have place in the top 20, let alone 10.