Pound for pound top 25 17/7

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  1. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    i have no problem on that list except for donaire..the fighters below donaire had acheive more recently than him add to the fact that he is way too much inactive after his 2 excellent performances..p4p list are always updated and imo its been the 2nd half of the year and donaire hasn't even fought yet.

    i also say the same against margarito..cintron was just an ordinary champ nothing special. I feel he should be below top 20 as compared to the other guys like mosley for example had more of a case to be higher than him

    other than that i have no problem with the list, and i understand the points on hatton and DLH
     
    CJLightweight, Jul 18, 2008
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  2. McGrain

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    Fair enough friend.

    Where do you rate Margarito at 147?
     
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  3. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    top 5, perhaps at 4 below williams and mosley
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Below Williams? I think that is unjusifiable, personally, but I understand a lot of people are still hot on Williams. Hopefully we find out sonner rather than later, because this Williams thing is starting to drag now.

    I have him above Mosley too. A few years ago, Mostley beats him up but he's older now. Margarito is impossible to discourage and violent. The wrong stuff for an older fighter in my view. I have Margarito at #2 in the 14 division beating quite a lot of other pound for pounders (Williams, Oscar, Mosley), perhaps this will help you understand my high ranking of him.
     
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  5. Stinky gloves

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    Toney definitely may be included within top 25 list, he is pretty competitive against top HWs and it means he would be competitive in any other weight class above 160lb. At this stage Toney >> Jones.
     
    Stinky gloves, Jul 18, 2008
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  6. McGrain

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    Your position is not unreasonable, the problem is as soon as you put Toney in with pound for pound candidates at or around the weight he is currently able to fight at - and the man sure as **** isn't going to make 168 ever again - he gets his ass handed to him, in my opinion. I don't think he would be competitive with Haye or Klitschko.

    Jones, on the other hand, will be in the Calzaghe fight in my estimation.
     
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  7. CJLightweight

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    i see but he did lose to williams..i am not that high on williams and i didn't think of him or brand him as just a hype job when he lose to quintana. I feel he's still a dangerous opponent for anyone at 147
     
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  8. McGrain

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    I think our positions are not that far apart on Margarito at all.
     
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  9. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    where do you rank him at 147? and on what basis?
     
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  10. Haye

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    I think its a crap list to be perfectly honest.
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I have him second (if treating Mayweather as retired)

    I consider Mosley past his best and ready to be taken by any of the top boys. I'd have him at 4th. Williams would be third. Yes, he beat Margarito, but this loss is less hurtful to Margarito that Williams's loss to Quintana. I think it's close, and depending on the manner of the defeat he could move below Willams post Cotto, we'll see.
     
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  12. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    apart from cotto, margarito, and williams..do you think the other guys at 147 can beat mosley? the version that fought cotto

    and yes i agree with the loss but at least williams avenged his loss and in such manner while margo hasn't yet done so but anyway i can see your point:good
     
    CJLightweight, Jul 18, 2008
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  13. McGrain

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    :think

    Seeing him fight Zab Judah wold be very very interesting thing. I think it's fair to make Shane a favourite in that one, however. Clottey is the only other one that might give him trouble. But that is assuming the version that fought Cotto. Even if that fight didn't cost him anything, Mosley is sliding now.
     
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  14. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    yup i agree..its too bad zab-mosley was cut off. Mosley is really on the slide right now, and oscar imo is much better than him at this point
     
    CJLightweight, Jul 18, 2008
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  15. McGrain

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    I think Oscar is still better too.
     
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