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you can use primary reports as evidance instead which generally arnt as biased

 

confusing punches is a bit minor, but theyd give a good idea of how goo dthe fighter was and ho wthe figth went

i agree best way is to wathc it yourself

 

Charley Burley was not better than Jimmy Bivins, Lloyd Marshall, Holman Williams, and especially Harold Johnson. Moore holds multiple victories over these greats. Green Bivins beats Burley, and Marshall beat the heck out of Burley. Harold Johnson was ESPECIALLY better than Burley and Holman Williams went even stevens with Burley. In fact was patterson better than Harold? Damato avoided Johnson like the plague in the late 1950s when Johnson challenged patterson for the title multiple times. Harold is an easy top 10 ATG at 175lb and beat a slew of highly rated big heavyweight contenders floyd avoided.


Also, The Moore-Charles II decisision was thought to have been a pretty obscure hometown decision that archie deserved. I think Moore got screwed out of one right there. The trilogy was alot closer than people think.

 

Why not? Archie went 22-1 with 19 knockouts against Heavyweights above 200lb.

You sure about that? Corbett was the single best win of the two, but it has controversy. Corbett knocked out Fitzsimmons early on, but Ruby Red grabbed the referee and stalled the ref to save himself from being counted out. That is what we call Cheating. This takes merit off the victory.


Nino Valdez, Bob Baker, Jimmy Bivins, Clarence Henry are certainly better than the likes of Tom Sharkey, Gus Ruhlin, and Peter Maher.




h2h wise I think Moore takes out Fitzsimmons mid-late round stoppage.

 

Film certainly does not prove this. In fact it proves the opposite. Resume wise, Harold beat outstanding lightheavyweights and Heavyweights, while Burley beat outstanding welters and middles...thats a wash. It comes down to h2h ability, and Harold was the more skilled of the two on film.

Archies word should be taken with a grain of salt. Archie also lied about the referee giving Marciano a "standing 8" count that saved him from knockout. Moore holds a Masters Degree in B.S

 

Yes. He knocked Fitzsimmons down and Fitz grabbed on to the refere giving him multiple extra seconds to recover stalling the referee. Fitz had been down for more than 10 seconds when he beat the count. That is what I call cheating.

 

Not in my opinion, or Mannasa's

Fitz would have gotten crushed at the age of 38 and 40 by Marciano and Patterson too. Fitz certainly would have got annihilated at 46 years old by Muhammad Ali. Look what happened when Fitz stepped up to fight Jeffries.. Jeffries demolished him twice.

Moore certainly proved he could defeat Hall of Fame Heavyweights Multiple times(Bivins) or 6'3 215lb Mandatory # 1 contenders Nino Valdez, or highly rated talented heavyweights Bob Baker , Clarence Henry(World Boxing Hall of Fame)

Moore rates higher on my list than Fitz. Moores career heavyweight record is estimated around 70-3!!! Unless we count the Guilido Rinaldi over the weight limit loss as a heavyweight fight too. But Archies record at heavyweight is unbelievable...and the Ali loss shouldnt count against him at all.