pound for pound top ten

Andre Ward: wu usually don't put a guy on the top ten p4p after only one excellent win. Wait a little bit. He'll have very soon the opportunity to prove his place but for the moment it's premature to put him there.

 

Quit your hatin, Donaire is not just an average fighter :nono



PAC
Mayweather
Mosley
Hopkins
JMM
Donaire
Dawson
Adamek
P.Williams
Cotto

 

Well I do and ive been compiling list for many years,Dominating Kessler was more impressive than some of the guys below the top 10 he also beat a good puncher and strong contender Edison Miranda convincingly. That win is more impressive than any thing Wlad has done,who many put in their top 10. Chris John,Tim Bradley,Hasegawa,Bute,Abraham,Valero,Margarito,Cotto,Adamek,Perez,Wladare some of the other guys that are on the fringes. Believe me Ward will prove his worth soon and remember that I told you so,another reason I put him here was because i had Kessler around 15 before their fight and Ward dominated a top fighter in my eyes.

 

So? P4P consideration is for recent achievement, for example within the last couple of years. The fact Vitali didn't drop any rounds in maybe the first 5 or 6 years of his career is irrelevant. That's like claiming Barrera is still top 10 worthy because of the wins years ago over Morales.

 

I'd like to know why Darchynian's off all lists just cause he lost his last fight.

 

Same with Martinez. I see him in a lot of lists. Why, because he had a close fight with Williams? Let's see him back it up and prove it wasn't a fluke or that he didn't catch Williams at a bad time as Quintana did.

Haye probably deserves to be in there. One more good win and I think he cracks it. I also find the Klitschos are unfairly treated on these lists because of their size. Sure they are bigger than everyone they fight but in actuality their dominance has more to do with their skill level than their size. History has shown it's harder to be great heavyweight at their size.

 

1.Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Mosley
4. Hopkins
5.Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Chad Dawson
8. Chris John
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. David Haye
Others: Paul Williams, Tomasz Adamek, Arthur Abraham, Lucian Bute, Vitali Klitschko, Nonito Donaire, Yohnny Perez, Andre Ward, Ivan Calderon, Sergio Martinez, Robert Guerrero

 

Hopkins is 3-3 in his last 6 fights but is p4p number 3 ... still

Mosley loses to Cotto ( who aint even on there ) then beats the definition of one dimesionsal Margorito and is number 5 p4p. What the **** Chad Dawson is doing on there who , knows

I cant go on anymore.....typically american biased list.

 

sorry 4 - 3 I forgot the testing battle against an ex sparmate two weight divison smaller than him


doh !

 

WHy should Haye be even close to being on this list? He has 2 wins Valuev and washed up journeyman Barret. Remember Haye is not a cruiser no more hes a 217lb heavyweight who has yet to prove himself against top Heavys. The Valuev win doesnt mean much in my eyes as he was lucky to get decisions over a faded RUiz an ancient Holyfield and lost to an ordinary Chageauv.
I knew Martinez was the goods before this fight and beating Cintron and Williams(in my eyes) is good enough for me my eyes tell me that this guy is a helluva fighter. Also its not like there is a list of guys that have such awesome resumes to be rated above him,If Williams is there then Martinez should be right above him or one notch below him at the lowest

 

Well do you keep up with boxing? For one he got ktfod by Nonito and he should not be rated above him and for another Agbeko beat him and he lost to Yohnny Perez,so any of the 3 mentioned above have to be rated above Vic.

 

Haye was unified cruiser champ with 3 belts and now has two good wins at heavy and a title. That's 4 major world title belts in 2 division in his past 4 fights. He has a case.

 

I know huh

Marquez too has lost a couple of his last few fights also. Atleast they lost to other p4p boxers.

But yeah, we need some new blood to step up and break the top 5. It is starting to look pretty stale.

 

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Shane Mosley
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Nonito Donaire
7. Chad Dawson
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Miguel Cotto
10. Paul Williams

 

you consider Barrett a good winatsch Valuev i guess thats a good win for coming up from cruiser,but in a pfp sense hes no longer a cruiser. Now if he beat Valuev while weighin in at the cruiser limit than yey i could see a case but hes a heavyweight now weighing more than Holyfield in his prime did and as much as Tyson,Prime Foreman etc. I just think hed get knocked out by a guy like Arreola therefore hes not deserving of a Pfp ranking.