Povetkin, Byrd, Brock, Chambers to fight in a tournament for a shot at Klitschko?

So with your logic Audley Harrison is as accomplished as Povetkin amateur career-wise also?

 

Face Brock, then Chambers, then Wlad, will have him most prepared.

 

If Povetkin's team think he's ready, it's likely they know more about the matter than we do...and if he is capable of winning a tournament including Brock, Byrd, and Chambers, that should assuage most doubts about his suitability.

 

OK, I think its clear that some in here are WAY overrating Alexander, yeah he has mad skills and hes a great prospect, put him in there with Wlad and his career will be over. Wlad is the top dog and he aint on anyones level right now, povetkin can beat brock and byrd to gain good exp, but he needs to take on others champ b4 thinking against Klit, I'm not even sure he can beat Byrd, he need a lot more experience b4 stepping in with Wlad,


Amateurs is NOTHING compared to pro, some of u seem to forget that

 

Wlad is the one being overrated here. People are making him out to be an unstoppable master of boxing who nobody can compete with. Povetkin is being underrated, because almost nobody thinks he could beat Wlad. In reality, the only one who is in danger of damaging their careers greatly is Klitschko. Getting brutally knocked out for the 4th time without any excuses to give could make him retire.

 

povetkin while being a good puncher is not a HUGE puncher, and klit as faced greater puncher and didnt get knocked out lately, I agree with u that Klit as a lot more to loose in a fight like that ur right, but the thing is that its almost impossible for him to loose to alexander right now,

dont get me wrong I think Povetkin is a future champ, but I think he is no where near ready to take on Klitshcko.
While u may think I overrate Klit, u cant deny that right now in this division hes more then likely head and shoulders above everyone

 

The guys of Fight news are talking as if this tournament is already official. Looks like it is. :happy :happy

The HW division has become interesting.

WBC....Peter vs. Maskaev, then against Vitali
WBO....Unification, then Thompson is mandatory
IBF.....Four-men tournament (Sasha, Byrd, Brock, Chambers)
WBA....Unification

 

It seems to be a big risk for Povetkin. What happens if Byrd decisions him? How far back will that set him? Or if Chambers beats him? Barring any sort of robbery on scorecards he will most likely be tossed into the failed prospect category by quite a few people. Not saying I agree with people who do that..but it does happen.

Also the fact that he hasn't got much exposure in the heavyweight boxing world as of yet. This may be the first time many people get to see him. I'd much rather see him build himself up in the professional ranks instead of relying on his amateur accomplishments, great as they may be.

I see no reason for him not to be in the ring with guys like Byrd, or Brock. I'd love to see him climb the ladder and put some fear into the champions, get people interested in him. He can be marketed so well it will just be a shame if he gets in over his head or tries to rush things.

 

You don't need to have George Foreman's power to hurt Wlad. You probably don't even need to have Yuri Foreman's power. Almost impossible for Wlad to lose? That's not overrating Wlad? Like I pointed out in the other thread, since losing to Brewster, the only real threat he faced was the green Sam Peter and he almost got knocked out by him. Sam Peter can't even be compared to Povetkin in the skills department or abilities department. He's just a wild fighter with good power and an iron chin. You will see. I'm glad so many people are doubting Povetkin because it will only make his odds of winning on sportsbooks lower and his victory look even more impressive.

 

Nice avatar, Pascal is killing

 

Ok first of all Wlad is not invincible, however he has recently minimized any opening that an opponent my be able to exploit and win. I don't care how good you are how many heavy's in history have fought the #1 HW in the world after 15 fights without beating a top 10 guy

look Povetkin needs to beat Byrd and the winner of Brock v Chambers and then he would in my mind be eligible to fight one of the lesser champs

but honestly if he beats 2 guys who wlad destroyed what about that makes him earn a shot at the title...

The whole argument that if his team thinks he's ready then he must be ready is beyond stupid...I've seen alot of young fighters get thrust into the spotlight too early and end up flat on their back

 

They're not THAT different, though. The fact that both sports involve almost identical punching and blocking skills, for instance. Amateur success is a good indicator for professional success. Almost every Olympic gold medalist got much further in boxing than literally 99% of fighters.

 

Hypotheticaly if he does get his shot at wlad and get's laid out how hurtful will that be to his career?

hell look at Wlad himself in 2003 he loses brutaly to Sanders and fights crappy competion in Moli and Nicholson to try and get his confidence back before he fights brewster which he again loses (possibly due to the mental aspect of the thumping he recieved from sanders) then he takes 2 more crap fights and only regains his composure after a brawl with Same peter which very easily could have gone the other way


If he isn't ready the comeback trail after a loss is a difficult one and can be very illusive...I'm not saying protect him and make him fight bums but he needs more than 15 fights before he gets to Wlad

Povetkin 15-0 gets Ko'd in the 7th by Wlad
Povetkin 23-0 = much better chance

 

I really can't see anyone giving Wlad much trouble from this tournament. I think that given time, Povetkin could take over the division, but as for taking it over right now, I'm seriously doubtful.

As for Byrd and Brock, we've seen what happened to both, and Byrd has just gotten older.

And as for Chambers, to me he is a blown up Cruiser, each fight I've seen him in he has been sporting a soft midsection. The weight he puts on to compete at Heavyweight does not sit well on him at all. But I do think he deserves to be in this tournament. His record is getting a little bloated, he needs to step up now if he wants to make a run for a title, and this is definately a good step in that direction.

:good I've been to four of his fights so far, entertaining guy.

 

theyre not THAT different but its like watching a kid playing hockey in Junior , example, Alexandre Daigle was destined to be the next best thing in hockey back 12 years ago, he turned out to be a HUGE flop, on the other hand u have sydney crosby who delivered the merchandise,

in boxing even tho similar, its not the same at all cause of the scoring systems, the lenght of fights, the head gear gloves etc, in pro its a lot different even tho having the same basics.. thats what I meant, look at Fraudley for examples, some gold medalist turns out to be champ in pros but other turns out to be shoulda coulda beens.. thats what I meant to say:good