Povetkin gave Joshua boxing lesson. He definitely outboxed AJ

Nonsense, he boxed well for 2-3 rounds and that's it. Took some time for AJ to adjust and he took over.

 

3 rds a peice bro

 

i would agree with you i noticed by rd 4 aj really going to the body with a stiff jab

 

I wouldn’t call crashing to a canvas face first a boxing lesson

 

Joshua beat a fat, chubby, obese, out of shape and a blown up light heavyweight in Alexander Povetkin? And? So what? Who cares? Why does it matter? Why should we be so impressed?

Are we seriously suppose to give a T-Rex credit for beating an old mouse who literally is too brave for its own good because it charges forward, despite being significantly smaller?

 

Thanks buddy

I really don't get this place at times, for people who are supposed to be fans of the sport, they seem more interested in the violence aspect and cheerleading their favourite fighters. At the same time they pay zero attention to the tactical aspects of boxing. The reason I'm so high on guys like Joshua are that he's a thinking mans fighter. Take Wilder, he has height, reach, speed, athleticism and arguably over AJ, so he's the better fighter and performer? Well, not exactly! He has ALL the physical attributes in his favour, say for physical strength, but on paper he should be better, but when you look at all of these heavyweights, there's only a handful (if that) who know how to use their physical attributes and turn them into a positive.

Fury is a perfect example. Not a lot of power, not particularly quick and doesn't hit hard, yet he makes use of his 6'9 frame and giant reach and has perfected his defensive footwork. If he was more correct in his punch technique and had better balance, he could be unbeatable! Again though, boxers who can think are the most dangerous, another oft overlooked aspect. Great thinking fighters were the ones who could adjust in the fight, in the middle of the round without corner instruction. Floyd, Hopkins and Calzaghe spring to mind for fighters of recent times who could do this, but I think we can add Joshua to that list now... just amazes me so called boxing fans don't see these things. One of the best examples in recent memory was Calzaghe/Kessler. JC came out looking to get inside for the first 3-4 rounds, then got ripped with a monster uppercut, so clearly Kessler was great at timing him on the way in, yet without corner instruction JC adjusted to the outside to box, a place where most pundits said was Kesslers wheelhouse.

 

Okay, here's some counter advice. When making a point and accusing someone of bias and being influenced by British commentary, don't then go and use another tv platforms commentary and scoring to emphasise your case lol.

Povetkin did land the more eye catching shots early on, no argument there, but there weren't enough of them and these shots were not dictating the fight. He was not only being overworked but slowly broken down. I've said numerous times 4 rounds to 2 on either direction I could understand. I had it even after 6, main difference being that Povetkin was already in top gear and Joshua was just starting. The shots being landed by Povetkin how ever eye catching were not having any effect. Joshua's however were, the body jab stopped Povetkin in his tracks every time and from his facial expression was clear he didn't like it.
After that the scoring mattered little, Joshua setup a trap and knocked him out.

Also, why assume I'm British therefore biased? My passport says I'm American, as does my social security number.

 

Well fortunately the judges hate for Joshua wasn't as great as yours, not that it mattered. If you watch the fight without rose tinted glasses you'd have noticed every time Povetkin got hit to the body he was sucking up air and slowing down.

As for the rest of your American/British/Russian bit... I've literally no idea what you're talking about, it honestly made no sense. Sorry...

 

Absolutely. the only thing that beat Povetkin was father time. at 39 years old, he just couldn't keep his normal pace! Povetkin has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of!!

 

You seem pretty dense, as I'm pretty sure I already said I had it even after 6 and again, just to reiterate, I'd have no issue with a 4-2 round spilt to either guy.

So yes, 3 rounds each means I hate Russians and love Brits... Because it's clear my hatred of Russia is spilling into the ESB forums based on my insanely biased scoring...

Most Americans don't even know where Russia is on a map or give two craps to be honest. But yes, I concur, you are less bias based on you giving Povetkin every round, your logic is flawless and your points succinct and clear. You may well be ESB's most intelligent and articulate poster.

 

Of course I can give the exact rounds and how I scored them, but what's the point? I don't even think you know what your point is art this stage. At first I'm a biased blind British fan boy, then I'm a Russian hating American who by default must love Brits because it suits your narrative.

Make your mind up...

I'm guessing English isn't your first language, but again, I had it 3 even but I can 'understand' or 'see' how someone would score it 4-2 either way. I'm not sure how I can be any clearer.

Let's just go back. You said Povetkin won every round, was more skillful and had better stamina. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but that's utter nonsense.

You saw the fight from one fighters perspective, you were not watching the fight you were watching Povetkin. A lot of my friends who are casual fans do this. They watch the fighter they like as opposed to the fight.

I think you're guilty of doing the same as Joshua didn't just knock him out from nowhere with some crazy power shot. It was from 6 rounds of being patient and breaking his opponent down. After 6 Joshua was breathing fine, Povetkin was sucking air in. The occasional hooks but repeated spearing jab to the body changed the fight.

Povetkin was soft to the body as Joshua said post fight, he saw the same thing most people who've watched boxing a long time saw. Those body jabs sucked the life out of him and allowed the trap to be set for the right hand that ultimately signaled the beginning of the end.

 

I feel like you're having a breakdown. Are you okay?

 

Povetkin won a couple of rounds, but it's a 12 round fight and he didn't have it.

 

I didn't see where he was out boxing Joshua. A lot of jumping in and out with wide shots. He did ok with that but the real boxing skills prevailed in the end.