Povetkin is past it. I don't think he'll offer much past the first 3 rounds.

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  1. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    David Price is chinny but rocked him. Joshua will win a decision and i'm not his biggest fan by any means.

    The Price knockout you could say is because Povetkin is a big puncher but Price is chinny anyway. So, his power will seem accentuated at this point.

    Joshua will win comfortably either by stoppage or decision. Povetkin is old and past it. He may have his moments but ultimately he'll not do much.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

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    I am a fan of Joshua's and this could be his toughest fight to date. Povetkin is a smaller heavy, but he does have a good overhand right that he uses against taller guys, underrated power, a wealth of experience, and more left than Klitschko. He is also going to fight like hell since this is his last shot.

    Be careful Big Josh!
     
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  3. Beyonce Wilder

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    what are these mental gymnastics? david price being chinny has nothing to do with him being able to rock povetkin.

    this post has offered nothing to show that povetkin is 'past it'
     
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  4. BCS8

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    I think Povetkin has enough left in the tank to be dangerous for at least 6 rounds. That may be all that's needed. If Joshua takes him lightly we could see a nice "Lewis moment"
     
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  5. BCS8

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    Agree. Price is a big lad and hits hard. I don't care if his chin is cotton candy, fact is that if he lands flush on any given HW they will feel it. If Povetkin got rocked, what do we say about Joshua who got KO'd clean by Price in sparring? :eek:
     
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  6. Jim Jeffries

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    He's still dangerous with his background but i think he looked slowed down in his previous fight with Price and also a bit vulnerable.

    David Price is a mediocre boxer with big power. Joshua's power is decent albeit he is more of an accumulative puncher but he's more accurate and technically leagues above Price.

    He's 38 years old and he just looked slowed down to me. He looked less explosive than his fights with Perez, Charr, and Takam.
     
  7. Beyonce Wilder

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    Wait wait wait. Povetkin hasn't shown anything in his last 3 outings that proves he can't go the distance, considering he went the distance twice in that time.

    We can't just look at his age, slap the table and say "he's going to gas".

    My concern is, if Joshua keeps him at arm's length and doesn't let him fight inside or clinches him (the Wlad blueprint, which Joshua showed in the Parker fight he's happy to follow), Povetkin hasn't shown an ability to adapt, overcome or try new things. He's just going to keep charging in like a bull (Again, refer back to the Wlad fight).
     
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  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But wasn'r Joshua knocked out cold by everybody (including flyweights) in sparring according to rumours?
     
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  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He knocked Price out in the 5th so clearly he's more than a 3 round fighter.

    I think he will be dangerous and has 6-8 good rounds in him at least and always has a punchers chance. But he will be taking Joshua's hard shots all that time, Povetkin isn't exactly difficult to hit, he will again need to show a robust chin if he isn't to be overwhelmed by Joshua.

    But I don't think Joshua will go in there looking to wreck Povetkin, he'll be patient and gradually break him down, probably stops him late.
     
  10. Jim Jeffries

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    He may have his moments but ultimately he gets beaten by most likely a decision. He just comes inside with hooks left hook then overhand right. He's a predictable fighter to train for albeit a tough and technically sound operator.

    Just sayin'

    Joshua does have some vulnerabilities as he's not the faster puncher but ultimately he should beat this ''vada tested'' Povetkin.

    The Christian Hammer version of Povetkin isn't a problem. The Takam version of Povetkin would be.

    Povetkin is a ''hook happy'' boxer vs a taller fighter. He's facing a taller, elite boxer who'll use the blueprint from the Wladimir fight whilst throwing hooks and using more strength than Wlad did.

    It'll be 3-6 rounds with Povetkin looking slower than before albeit still dangerous. He'll have a couple of moments but ultimately the bigger, taller man will use his strength and size advantage to bring home the victory.

    Povetkin isn't ''fleet of foot'' like the Wladimir which showed up dancing on his toes using pace vs Joshua.

    He's a shorter fighter who bounces off his right foot to throw combos of hooks on the inside. What will Joshua do? Likely smother him and push him back landing jabs and hooks of his own.

    David Price can't box he's a plumber. I like the guy he's a good bloke but he just never learned proper boxing fundamentals and got too confident in his power vs stiffs. It's not even that he's chinny he just doesn't have a boxing brain. You think Joshua will let Povetkin just land openly on his chin with zero defense? No way.

    Obviously Povetkin may cause the upset like my old man thinks but i highly doubt it. He's mandatory which he stated but they can bypass mandatories with money. He's fighting him because he's clearly beatable.

    It's why Joshua didn't fight a Luis Ortiz when i think i believe he was his mandatory because he was too dangerous and Hearn signed him to keep him away from Joshua. Ortiz is/was more dangerous because he's a hard hitting southpaw. He had no name value, either. Which is another excuse Eddie used for Joshua not to fight him. It wasn't just because he was taking blood pressure pills and got popped. He signed him with no intention of ever putting him in the ring with AJ.
     
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  11. KiwiMan

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    Yes, however Joshua himself has confirmed the Price rumour. He said he was a novice at the time while Price was already fairly experienced.

    That being said, I tend to agree with the OP. Povetkin is too old, too slow, and too small to beat a focussed Joshua.
     
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  12. Jim Jeffries

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    Joshua said about the Price rumor he just got out of a jail cell and went sparring vs Price and got caught. He mentions it in the first press conference for the Parker fight.
     
  13. Jim Jeffries

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    Obviously you can't rule out an upset. Here's the thing, though.

    *IF* Povetkin lands a big left or right hook or cross on the inside and rocks Joshua... I don't think he'll have enough to finish him off. Wladimir is more accurate than Povetkin with much straighter harder hitting shots. Joshua went down purposely from the shot from Wladimir to give himself some time.

    I don't think he lands the extra one or two punches to wipe out Joshua but he can rock him. I think if Joshua is hurt he'll just smother the smaller, older and weaker man or he'll go down purposely to recoup.

    I could be completely wrong and if the Povetkin of the Takam/Perez fights shows up then i might well be. I just don't see it given how predictable Povetkin is as a fighter. He's an elite fighter but he's also predictable to train for. I do think though however he'll have some moments where he'll get some success especially if he gets AJ on the ropes and i do think he'll land a few counters.

    Wilder is more dangerous because he's less predictable with his shots and is better than advertised by all the people who mock him. He's not the best boxer around but his unorthodoxy and speed will cause havoc vs AJ. AJ *should* win if they ever do meet because he's the better boxer and stronger but who knows.
     
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  14. PaddyGarcia

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    Povetkin is past his best, you can see that. Way too much being read into the fact Price wobbled him a bit though. He still got comfortably outboxed and stopped. He's still a very capable Heavyweight and certainly in the top 5.
     
  15. PaddyGarcia

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    I do not for a single second believe that in the slightest.
     
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