Povetkin>Ortiz

Or I DGAF about Wilder or Joshua, and am stating sincerely my opinion as to who's better between Povetkin or Ortiz? Because maybe not everyone is as childish as you and has to have everything be proxy agenda BS.

 

IMHO, Povetkin would beat both Ortiz and Wilder more than 5 times of ten, and so would Joshua, but you're right, any of those could happen and none would be shocking on a given night.

 

You offered or threatened to be banned dumbass, in which case you'd be ready to create an alt account making a tool.

 

I think Ortiz would have a slightly better future at this point, assuming each could get matches, because Ortiz likely would take Tyson Fury's head off but Tyson likely could smother his way to a decision against Povetkin.