Povetkin Record its a joke!

List current heavies with a better record

 

Povetkin has the 3rd best resume of the last 15 years outside the two K brothers.

Byrd (in your 14th pro fight is an excellent win)
Prime Chambers (good win)
Prime Huck (good win)
Prime Chagaev (good win)
Lasting the distance with genuine atg Wlad (solid performance)

Picking up the pieces and defeating several decent contenders after your loss to get back into contention is a good rebound to a career.
Takam (good win)
Charr (decent win)
Perez (decent win ko1)
Hammer (decent win)

Olympic Gold medalist with a 34-1 record is a solid career.

Look at Wilder 39-1 Olympic bronze medalist - had one top 10 opponent in more fights and defended a belt 6 times agains 0 top 10 opponents.

Joshua and Parker are behaving like champions and are fighting quality opposition I like both of their careers so far.
If Povetkin gets past Price and fights the winner of Joshua vs Parker - it will really be a good fight and should Povetkin lose he'll be the true last remnant of the K2 era of domination. Joshua and or Parker will move on fully to the new generation of heavies.

 

My next injection is not scheduled until Sunday right before Tom Brady ruins you day once again.

SOWWWWWEY.......

 

ftr , i believe Povetkin has a good record. Better than Wilders and could be argued better than Joshua's. However that argument ends if/when AJ beats Parker to become a 3 belt world champ.

 

Say what you want but pov still got a better resume that some of today's 'top' heavyweights

 

This is about as perfectly objective a post as can be had on the subject, I think. Anything too much more favorable to Povetkin or too critical in the other direction is indicative of a biased view one way or the other.

I would only amend, to suit my own personal viewpoint, that:
1) Perez belongs in the "good" company with Takam, Chagaev etc rather than "decent" with the likes of Charr & Hammer
2) Chambers, Huck and Chagaev all need to be mitigated for various reasons - all good wins, but Chambers dominated much of the first half until he stopped jabbing, Huck is a cruiserweight and fought on nearly even terms with Povetkin (admittedly on the night of his life concurrent with an "off night" for Sasha, but still), and Chagaev...well, hepatitis.
3) you could throw oldish Larry Donald in for "decent"; I don't think he's any worse than Hammer or Charr tbh.
4) if you're going to include a parenthetical "solid performance" for Wlad you have to also be fair & balanced to say he did get dropped a bunch of times and failed to find a way to consistently cut the ring off effectively or repel the spoiling (bordering on dirty) clinching and push-pole tactics of the bigger man.

 

exactly, comparing end of career with green is stupid. Thank you for underlining my point. U r a good man here.


but no below, where you are disagreeing with what you wrote really -

if you want to lay bets against who has the longer remaining career, please go ahead. Pov is finished at the top level, as are most by age 38..an evidence mountain you seem to keen to iceskate uphill against - please continue your iceskate lesson without me.

 

http://www.irish-boxing.com/getting-ring-drunk-mike-perez-reveals-demons-tragic-mago-fight/

Seems legit seeing as how he showed an iron chin before and after that fight.

 

Thanks and I agree with your assessment, and of fleshing out the details on his fights.

 

only knock on povetkin is the failed tests. his skills in the ring are great an his resume is really good as well. been fighting top guys for a while an nowone legit beat him. wlad made his own set of rules vs povetkin and just hugged him all night and even tho the fight was in russia the reff was bias an fight seemed like it was in wlads back yard.

 

I'm not comparing ANYBODY .I'm comparing Povetkin and yes he has a better resume than the likes of Wilder and anyone below him....

I never said anyone who has 35 fights has a better resume than everyone , I'm not sure what your talking about. Wilder has 39 fights so that disqualified that logic.

Ty Fields has no place of relevance in my post to what you are comparing... that's what you call coming WAY out if left field

 

1) Agreed, although there were some rumours that Perez wasn't at his best that night. Not sure how to take that though.

2) Huck was no more a cruiserweight than Chambers really. He actually weighed 5lbs more than Chambers when he fought Povetkin, so his size shouldn't really be an issue. Chambers did dominate the early stages of the fight, but Povetkin was setting a very fast pace and Chambers began to gas out in the middle stages leading to him being outworked down the stretch. Not the most glamorous way to win a fight, but perfectly legit nonetheless. Agreed on Chagaev. Solid win, but Chags was past his best.

3) Agreed. I'd also put tentatively Boswell in that category.

4) The Wlad fight was one big mess of illicit tactics and blind reffing from start to finish. Povetkin should in no way be held accountable for failing to curb Wlad's rampant cheating, or for his inability to cut off the ring against a man who was more interested in tackling him to the ground than in honest fighting. As far as I'm concerned that fight shouldn't be on either man's record. It wasn't boxing.

 

There's alot of "ifs" and "whens" and "what would of's" here....."if" Wlad had done this...."if" Pulev had fought...

AJ hasn't beaten Parker yet and even if he does its no great achievement...I'd favour Povetkin over Parker even at this late stage in his career......Infact Povetkin already has a win technically because I believe that he'd beat Parker as he would Pulev.....see what I'm doing here.

 

Are you Nostradamus reincarnate?

Are you a psychic?

I only ask as you seem to believe that you can see what's around the corner and it should not be questioned....

Povetkins record on the way up is better than AJ'S....Byrd, Chagaev....then you have his title run....its solid. Joshua could in turn end up with the better resume but I cannot see it, I don't think he'll still be champion in 18 months time.