Povetkin: Stiverne wanted a way out....

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you crazy on the undercard of the Povetkin fight durodola the Nigerian who knocked out chakhiev and wach before failed a test with the Russian drug testers and when their samples were requested by a neutral drug testing organisation to double check the Russian testers backed out. If that ain't dodgy I don't know what is.
     
  2. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: this thread is pure comedy. Everything under the sun being talked, global trade and **** about except #PEDetkin cheating. Stiverne may have been mentioned twice as well. Stiverne isn't running, he's chasing the WBC mandatory spot. end of story.
     
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  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree they aren't an I said that to madballster who was making the argument all should be treated equally. All I know ostarine isn't a Mickey Mouse PED like meldonium so your boy povetkin missed up big time this time and hopefully he is banned for it. He could of killed duhaupas yesterday.
     
  4. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    stiverne could have killed someone with he's ped use, yet no one called for him to be banned

    again like the meldonium case il wait for all the facts to come out before making a judgement, people rushed to judgement last time and ended up looking very silly
     
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    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    i was tlaking about drug testing for povetkin but ya of course thats a valid argument

    but with the level of corruption and political influence effecting sport, i believe a truly neutral body should be set up because right now a russian isn't going to be given a fair shake.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't care about no meldonium use, according to studies it's not a big enough advantage for me to get in an uproar about. However Povetkin was stupid for taking it because it gave Wilder a way out.

    i ain't giving povetkin no benefit of the doubt coz i do for him I have to for Browne two failed tests is a joke.
     
  7. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    he didn't take it before it was banned, and even at that he was under the allowed limits, he didn't break any rules, the only reason wilder got a way out is because the corrupt wbc allowed him and then spent over 6 months investigating a non issue where if they looked up wada own rules could have sorted the issue out in 5 seconds.

    im not giving povetkin the benefit of the doubt this time, but i am obviously going to wait for all the facts come out before condemning him
     
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  8. jmashyaka

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    Russia are given the same shake as the Kenyans, cubans, jamiacans, Spanish, polish etc.
    It's just their athletes keep getting popped, a lot of their athletes dope not even because they want to but rather because they have to in order to compete with their comrades and make it to the Olympic squads etc.

    By no means do I think russia is the only one that do it, it is rife in all nations and especially in athletics.
     
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  9. jmashyaka

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    That's basically the definition of giving someone the benefit of the doubt lol.
     
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  10. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    not really every single kenyen,jamacian, spanish athlete werent banned from the olmympics. wada hasn't banned a specific drug that isn't even considered to have much benefits that is only used in that part of the world like they did with meldonium in russia. wada also banned it without studying excretion times which was completely idiotic unless it was their intention all along to screw over the athletes so they could report how many russians got caught doping when it was wadas fault for not studying the drug in the first place.

    jamiaca for example failed to test their athletes for drugs in the 6 months running up to the 2008 and 2012 olympics, (the best times to cycle peds) they also told their athletes they wouldn't test them . Since then almost all the runners have tested positive for something except bolt(you can bet he is too big at this stage to be caught, it would destroy athletics). but they received no ban even when its obvious they were all doping and the jamacian authorities were assisting them

    china never get caught doping because they are the most powerful nation in the world and no one will touch them out of fear,

    its all lies and deception, i just want a level playing field
     
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  11. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    i guess is kind of is lol but you can't condemn someone without knowing what has happened, that would be silly
     
  12. jmashyaka

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    If it has no real advantanges why do these Russian athletes continuously take it after it has been banned, are you suggesting it's an addiction and they can't come off the stuff?

    What are you talking about powel and Blake were suspended I will double check t to be sure but if memory serves me right they were. Tyson gate was busted so was Gatlin.

    I just said all the nations are doping the difference is the Russians got caught so much time that even the crocked AIFA said this is getting ridiculous.
     
  13. jmashyaka

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    Are you taking that attitude with Browne?? How about Sturm who is on the run atm?
     
  14. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    i never really cared about browne at all so i havn't gave it much taught but both he's cases look slightly bad and he's own management came out against him

    i don't trust sturm at all and hate him, but again havn't really followed he's case so can't comment
     
  15. jmashyaka

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    So you would admit it's your favouritism towards Povetkin which has you defending him more than his actual innonence because had it been Sturm in Povetkins shoes you wouldn't give a damn.