Povetkin: Stiverne wanted a way out....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jmashyaka, Dec 18, 2016.


  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's it going to take for you to believe he is a ****en PED cheat?
     
  2. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A verdict?
     
  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at this grammar nazi, you can't even make coherent arguements for your opinion in which case ''you're'' or ''you are'' an absolute ******.
     
  4. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    The verdict is in. He is a notorious drug cheat.
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is Headvetkin guilty of using?
     
  6. jmashyaka

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    Without researching the effects of DMAA and Ostarine, you probably will not see much difference. I can only say that one has way more potent effects to performance than the other from my research on the drugs.
     
  7. greenhornet

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    funny thing is his head is no bigger than stivernes. no barry bonds planetoid here.
     
  8. jmashyaka

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    Yes, he is in my opinion which is why I started this thread by putting him on blast.
     
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  9. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what verdict? That hes got big hands?
     
  10. greenhornet

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    odds are both are using things they haven't gotten popped for, but that is true of every athlete. look at armstrong or carl lewis.
     
  11. jmashyaka

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    Well both are using and they have got popped for it except one got popped for using a more powerful drug than the other.
     
  12. jmashyaka

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    I don't think every athlete is using but I do think the very top athletes of a lot of sports are because they have the money to get specialised drug and advice on how to avoid testing positive for tests.
     
  13. greenhornet

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    drug testing is supposed to create a level playing field. it fails badly. no real fix for this as people will always cheat and there will always be undetectable peds.
     
  14. greenhornet

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    tons of non athletes use. odds are every pro athlete is on something or they wouldn't have made it to professional level.
     
  15. jmashyaka

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    Your making very strong statements I don't know whether there will always be undetectable PEDS but I do think there will always be people involved in drug manafacturing searching for an edge. I do think Vada do a better job of detecting PEDs than the others but as they are voluntary drug testing outfit they aren't used as often as the crappy ones.